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Who Needs HTML5? Chrome 5 Integrates Flash Plug-In

Who Needs HTML5? Chrome 5 Integrates Flash Plug-In

In somewhat of a surprise move, Google this week announced it has begun collaborating with Adobe to improve the Flash Player experience in Google Chrome, and as such, has bundled the plug-in with the latest version of Chrome in the developer channel.

The implications here are potentially huge. Let's not forget that Google owns YouTube, so the move to integrate Flash into Chrome makes complete sense. But it also puts Google somewhat at odds with the HTML5 team hoping to move away from proprietary plug-ins in favor of an open video format.



"The traditional browser plug-in model has enabled tremendous innovation on the Web, but it also presents challenges for both plug-ins and browsers," Google stated in its Chromium blog. "The browser plug-in interface is loosely specified, limited in capability, and varies across browsers and operating systems. This can lead to incompatibilities, reduction in performance, and some security headaches."

Google's comments echo those made by Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen almost a year ago, who claimed that the "fragmentation of browsers makes Flash even more important rather than less important."


Image and Data Credit: Net Applications

And before anyone dismisses this as no big deal based on market share, let's not forget that Chrome has been steadily rising while Internet Explorer continues to decline. In just 18 months since release, Chrome has positioned itself as the No. 3 browser on the planet with a 5.61 percent share, according to online research firm Net Applications.

For those of you wanting to give Chrome 5 a whirl, you can snag it here.
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Only 5.61% share? Hmm, I would have thought it was higher than that.

I'm not sure on how I feel about this. I really would rather have HTML5 be the standard. That, and if bugs/security holes are discovered in flash, would that make it much easier to exploit someone who is using Chrome?

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I'm surpriced that Safari has lower user persantage than google, I think Opera is a great browser.

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PEOPLE STILL USE NETSCAPE? Holy crap, I only remember using that in Kindergarten, then it was IE for the rest of the Elementary School days. 

And before anyone dismisses this as no big deal based on market share, let's not forget that Chrome has been steadily rising while Internet Explorercontinues to decline. In just 18 months since release, Chrome has positioned itself as the No. 3 browser on the planet with a 5.61 percent share, according to online research firm Net Applications.

Good, I hope people realize more steadily that Internet Explorer is a cesspool of computer viruses and bad coding. 

I like Chrome, although I'll admit it took some time to shrug off the FireFox effect. I think the best thing about Chrome are two things: 

1) Auto fill in feature: Chrome knows what sites I visit the most, so when I type in the URL it will auto fill in the remaining parts. 

2) The Favorites Bar: The sites that I visit most can be plotted on a bar so I can quickly navigate with just a click of the mouse. 

Not to mention that Chrome is light and fast. The only downside, is because it's so knew that many websites don't have support for it yet. Like those websites that require you to use IE or Mozilla because it doesn't recognize chrome, yeah that. 

The implications here are potentially huge. Let's not forget that Google owns YouTube, so the move to integrate Flash into Chrome makes complete sense. But it also puts Google somewhat at odds with the HTML5 team hoping to move away from proprietary plug-ins in favor of an open video format.

So essentially youtube videos will finally load at much, much faster speeds. Good. 

 

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There are some sites that don't work right in Chrome, but now that it supports extensions, groovy plug-ins like IE Tab are available - http://bit.ly/91sBeC

I'm finding myself using Chrome more and more these days, though I'm also liking Mozilla's Developer Preview. I'm having less of a memory leak issue with this than with Firefox 3.6 - http://bit.ly/aRBQYo

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Flash = proprietary, closed source, patent encumbered, and unavailable for all processor architectures.

*That's* why we *need* HTML5.

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3vi1:

Flash = proprietary, closed source, patent encumbered, and unavailable for all processor architectures.

*That's* why we *need* HTML5.

The only thing stopping HTML5 is the fact that not many browsers come with the necessary video codecs. Once Firefox is able to do HTML5 YouTube then I will dump Flash. I do not want to have to use IETab and Google Crome Frame in order to be able to do HTML5 YouTube, it should have the codec in there or if that is not possible then at least an option to download the codec.

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I moved over from chrome to Firefox because some sites on Chrome didn't function correctly. With these changes I might just switch back.

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"The implications here are potentially huge. Let's not forget that Google owns YouTube!"

Also lets not forget that Youtube, is under orders to turn over all information at any time! That means that Google must do that as well.

Has anyone actually read "1984"? They make you fear the other guy, so they can seize power and do exactly what that fear was!

Even though I have Gmail, Explorer is working just fine for me.

I see no reason to have a browser operate faster, that allows for faster invasions!

Goggles, flashy systems may be all nice now. But what happens after years of unsecured operations, that you don't know about. Then they start selling you the OS's just like Microsoft at higher prices, and have just as many, if not more security issues?

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Well animatortom, there are other browsers you can use that aren't Chrome. Such as Firefox.

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hopefully they'll add apng support too Confused

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Seriously? "Who Needs HTML 5?" I'm quite disappointed in this post. HTML 5 is much more than just a tag being implemented. Granted, that is a nice feature.. but it involves so much more. HTML 5 in general is aimed at the goal of separating structure and styling, just take a look at all the deprecated tags that go along with HTML 5.

Think about this as well: Google owns Youtube. HTML 5 is still a ways away from being a standard. It's a smart marketing move, they're able to pull people away from other browsers to Chrome just because it'll be better for Youtube. For simple users, what better way to attempt to influence them to a better browser from IE than to appeal to their interests? People that don't do web development don't know any better and use IE (Unless their friends have told them to use otherwise).

Then think about this: Once HTML 5 is a standard, and all browsers support it properly (will probably take years.. but I'm happy to see that IE 9 looks somewhat promising for this), They own Youtube. What's stopping them from changing it over to HTML 5? I don't know if it'll ever happen that way, but it's a possibility depending on how other browsers choose to implement the HTML 5 video tags.

Anyway, even if the video addition isn't mainly used just for streaming video - it still has many more capabilities that flash videos just don't have. Anyone customizing their videos (Presentations, Business videos come to mind) have much more capability to do so with HTML 5 - just look at what's possible when using it with Canvas.

My Opinion: Moves made by Google like that don't hurt HTML 5 very much at all.. Articles like this do MUCH more to hurt HTML 5 in peoples' minds when you actually put forth the possibility that it could make a difference.

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First of all, the browser total market shares are waaaaay off. According to w3schools, Firefox holds 46%, IE6,7, and 8 combined hold 35%, and Chrome holds 12%. (as of March 2010)

HTML will hopefully be cool, but its not going to replace flash in the next century, especially at its current rate of development (or underdevelopment)

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