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Asus P5Q Deluxe - P45 Chipset with DDR2
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Date: May 20, 2008
Section:Motherboards
Author: Marco Chiappetta
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Introduction and the Board



Intel Levies Heavy CPU Price Reductions As many of you are no doubt aware, Intel is planning to officially release a new mainstream chipset in a few weeks, the P45.  From a feature standpoint, the new P45 is somewhat similar to last year's P35.  The P45, however, will have official support for PCI Express 2.0, with a more flexible lane configuration for multi-GPU graphics, and the chipset itself is being manufactured at 65nm as opposed to 90nm.  Using the more advanced process to build the chips should result in lower power consumption and lower operating temperatures as well.  The P45 will also be paired up with a new ICH10-series southbridge, which is similar to the ICH9 sans a few legacy features.

Asus showed off a few P45-based motherboards at the CeBit show a while back, but at the time, the boards weren't quite ready for the market.  We have, however, gotten our hands on final production version of the Asus P5Q Deluxe, which should be available soon.

 

   

  
Asus P5Q Deluxe: P45 with DDR2 Memory Support


As you can see in the images above, the P5Q Deluxe sports a large passive, all copper cooling system, very similar to the P5E3 series of boards.  There are heatsinks over the northbridge and sourthbridge, and over the baord's VRM, which are all linked together via a copper heat-pipe system.  Although the elaborate cooling may make it seem like the P45 needs plenty of cooling, we found this board to run incredibly cool.  In fact, even after hours of use, the NB heatsinks was barely warm to the touch.

The Asus P5Q Deulxe has three physical PCI Express x16 slots, dual PCIe x1 slots, and a pair of PCI slots. And as we've mentioned the PCI Express lanes to the PEG slots is flexible - unlike the P35 - so they can be setup in either a x16 / x1 or x8 / x8 configuration depending on how many graphics cards are installed.  Audio duties on the board are handled by an ADI2000B HD codec, Gigabit Ethernet by Marvell 88E8001 and 88E8056 controllers, and the I/O backplane is loaded with six USB 2.0 ports, dual LAN jacks, a PS/2 mouse or keyboard port (notice the two-tone colored port), digital and analog audio outputs, Firewire, and eSATA.

If you look between the second PCI and PCIe x16 slots, a flash memory card is visible, which features the "Express Gate", Linux-based mini-OS we told you
about here.  The version installed on the P5Q Deluxe, however, has been updated to add more features and functionality.  Finally, we should note a few other new features Asus is touring with this board.  The P5Q Deluxe has ESD and Overcurrent Protection built in, as well TPM and Drive Xpert support.  The ESD protection prevents damage to the on-board circuitry due to an electrostatic discharge at that USB ports.  The overcurrent protection circuit is somewhat similar, and protects the ports should the current being drawn from them reach a level that could  cause an excessive temperature increase.  ASUS Data Guardian ofers support for trusted plafrom modules (TPM), and Drive Xpert is an included tool for backing up data.  Finally, the board also features Asus' EPU technology, which is designed to improve power consumption and efficiency.
 

 
P45 Chipset High-Level Overview


As we've mentioned, the P45 chipset is manufactured using Intel's 65nm process node.  The chipset can support either DDR2 or DDr memory technologies and 800MHz - 1.33GHz Front Side Bus frequencies, although a 1.6GHz FSB will be unofficially supported by many P45 motherboards.  DDR3 memory speeds of up to DDR3-1333 and DDR2 speed of up to DDR2-1066 are officially supported, but once again, higher speeds are attainable through overclocking.

The ICH10 southbridge supports 6 SATA ports, 12 USB 2.0 ports, HD audio, and Intel 82567 Gigabit LAN.  The Asus P5Q Deluxe, however, features the ICH10R, which also adds support for Intel Matrix RAID storage technology.  Notice, there is no legacy PATA or LPT support here.

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The BIOS and Overclocking


Like a number of previous Asus high-end motherboard offerings, the P45-based P5Q Deluxe is outfitted with an embedded Linux-based operating system that’s available upon initial power-up.  The feature is dubbed “Express Gate”, but it is based on the SplashTop platform technology developed by San Jose-based company DeviceVM.  With this new motherboard, however, the Express Gate OS has been updated to v1.1.1.22 and offers a couple of new applications.


     

   


When the P5Q Deluxe is first powered up, a menu is displayed that gives users the option to boot the OS, enter the system BIOS, power down the system, or launch the Express Gate applications.  If you choose to boot the OS, enter the BIOS, or recycle power, the P5Q Deluxe behaves just like any other motherboard.  If you launch the Express Gate applications though, which are comprised of a web browser, a music-playback application, a photo browser, an IM client, and Skype, the embedded Linux-based OS is launched from an integrate on-board ROM and seconds later it’s available for use.  Like previous iteration, we found the Express Gate technology easy to use and quite handy.

If, for example, you need to download a driver or BIOS file and the hard drive-based OS isn’t functioning properly.  With Express Gate you can access the web and integrated peripherals even if the system’s full blown OS has a problem and won't boot.


     

     


As you can see in the screen captures above, the Asus P5Q Deluxe is equipped with an AMI BIOS derivative that is very complete and relatively easy to navigate. From within the BIOS users have the ability to configure, enable or disable all of the board's integrated peripherals, and monitor voltages, system temps, and clock speeds. The P5Q Deluxe also has an extremely extensive set of memory timing options that offer excellent flexibility for fine tuning memory performance or overclocking.

The  Asus P5Q Deluxe's standard BIOS menu screens don't reveal anything unusual, but they will give you a feel for the general layout and organization of the options. Each individual screen has a host of menus that tunnel deeper and deeper as the options get more complex. As we've seen with most of Asus' recent motherboard offerings, other than the color scheme used, the P5Q Deluxe's menus are very similar to the BIOS derivatives used on most other high-end motherboards today.

Overclocking The Asus P5Q Deluxe
Plenty of Options


     

      


It is inside the "Extreme Tweaker" section of the Asus P5Q Deluxe's BIOS that users will find most of the board's performance tuning options.  From within the "Extreme Tweaker" section of the BIOS, users have the ability to alter clock frequencies and voltages for every major on-board component. The CPU front side bus and PCI Express frequencies can be altered in 1MHz increments, and the CPU multiplier and memory ratio can also be manipulated manually.  There are also extensive voltage options for the CPU, Memory, chipset, CPU PLL, CPU GTL (reference 0/2 and 1/3), FSB termination, Southbridge and SATA.

Another useful feature is that the BIOS is designed to allow users to key in voltages and frequencies directly without having to tunnel into a menu option.  We found this type of interface easy to use and especially liked the notes in the right margin that explained what each setting did, and which values were recommended.

We should note, that while the Asus P5Q Deluxe does have an wide assortment of voltage and memory options geared for overclockers, tinkering with all of them is not necessarily required to achieve high FSB and memory frequencies.  Asus actually includes a feature called "Mem OC Charger" that acts as a signal quality compensation mechanism to help system memory to reach higher frequencies.  Asus also states that due to the P45's 65nm manufacturing process, high NB voltages aren't necessary for moderate overclocking.

Obviously, we spent some time overclocking with the Asus P5Q Deluxe to see just how much untapped horsepower it had left.  We began by increasing our processor's core and the memory voltages by .1v.  Then we dropped our processor's multiplier to 6x, initially lowered the memory speed, and increased the front side bus frequency until our test system was no longer stable.  In the end, we were able to increase the FSB to 500MHz and memory to almost 1.2GHz with stock cooling and only a couple of minor tweaks.  Anything higher than 500MHz and the system wasn't stable with the stock chipset, FSB, and PLL voltages.  We're sure higher frequencies are possible though, with more experimentation though.
 

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Test Systems and SANDRA XII


How We Configured Our Test Systems: When configuring our test systems for this article, we first entered their respective system BIOSes and set each board to its "Optimized" or "High performance Defaults". We then saved the settings, re-entered the BIOS and set memory timings for either DDR2-1066 with 5,5,5,15 timings or DDR3-1333 with 7,7,7,20 timings. The hard drives were then formatted, and Windows Vista Ultimate was installed. When the Windows installation was complete, we updated the OS, and installed the drivers necessary for our components. Auto-Updating and Windows Defender were then disabled and we installed all of our benchmarking software, defragged the hard drives, and ran all of the tests.


 HotHardware's Test Systems
 Intel and AMD - Head To Head 

System 1:
Core 2 Extreme QX9650
(30GHz - Quad-Core)

Asus P5Q Deulxe
(P45 Chipset w/ DDR2)

Gigabyte X48-DQ6
(X48 Chipset w/ DDR2)

Gigabyte X48T-DQ6
(X48 Chipset w/ DDR3)

2x1GB Corsair PC2-8500
CL 5-5-5-15 - DDR2-1066

2x1GB Corsair DDR3-1800
CL 7-7-7-20 - DDR3-1333

GeForce 8800 GTX
On-Board Ethernet
On-board Audio

WD150 "Raptor" HD
10,000 RPM SATA

Windows Vista Ultimate
NVIDIA Forceware v174.16
DirectX Redist (November 2007)

System 2:
AMD Phenom X4 9850
(2.5GHz)

Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DQ6
(AMD 790FX Chipset)

2x1GB Corsair PC2-8500
CL 5-5-5-15 - DDR2-1066

GeForce 8800 GTX
On-Board Ethernet
On-board Audio

WD150 "Raptor" HD
10,000 RPM SATA

Windows Vista Ultimate
NVIDIA Forceware v174.16
DirectX Redist (November 2007)

 

 Preliminary Testing with SiSoft SANDRA XII
 Synthetic Benchmarks


We began our testing with SiSoftware's SANDRA XII, the System ANalyzer, Diagnostic and Reporting Assistant. We ran three of the built-in subsystem tests that partially comprise the SANDRA XII suite with an Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 processor installed in the Asus P5Q Deluxe motherboard (CPU Arithmetic, Memory Bandwidth, and Memory Latency).  For comparison, we also ran the same three tests on a Gigabyte X48-based motherboard equipped with DDR2 memory.  All of the scores reported below were taken with the processors running a clock speed of 3GHz, with 2GB of DDR2-1066 RAM installed.



Asus P5Q Deluxe
CPU Arithmetic

  
Asus P5Q Deluxe

Memory Bandwidth


Asus P5Q Deluxe
Memory Latency


  
 
Gigabyte X48-DQ6
CPU Arithmetic
 


 

Gigabyte X48-DQ6
Memory Bandwidth

 


Gigabyte X48-DQ6
Memory Latency
  


The SiSoft SANDRA benchmarks tell an interesting story.  According the three modules we ran, the P45 and X48 chipset perform similar in the CPU Arithmetic benchmark, which is to be expected.  The memory bandwidth and latency benchmarks, however, show marked differences between the two chipsets.  Although they were both equipped with the same CPU and memory, the X48 / DDR2 combination put up slightly better memory bandwidth and latency scores.  Whereas the P45-based Asus P5Q Deluxe offered up approximately 6.98GB/s of memory bandwidth with a random access latency of 77ns, the X48-based Gigabyte board put up 7.01GB/s of peak bandwidth with random access latency of 73ns.  How these differences play out in real world performance scenarios, however, remains to be seen.

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PCMark Vantage


We ran the Asus P5Q Deluxe, as well as a trio of competing platforms, through Futuremark’s latest system performance metric built especially for Windows Vista, PCMark Vantage. PCMark Vantage runs through a host of different usage scenarios to simulate different types of workloads, including High Definition TV and movie playback and manipulation, gaming, image editing and manipulation, music compression, communications, and productivity.  Most of the tests are multi-threaded as well, so the tests can exploit the additional resources offered by a quad-core CPU.

Futuremark PCMark Vantage
Simulated Application Performance




PCMark Vantage seems to contradict the SiSoft SANDRA results.  Here, the P45-based Asus P5Q Deluxe is marginally faster than the X48, regardless of whether or not DDR2 or DDR3 memory was used.  In the PCMark and Communication test suites in particular, the P5Q Deluxe finished a few percentage points ahead of the X48. although it did trail the DDR3 equipped board by a but in the productivity and music tests.

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LAME MT and Kribibench v1.1

 

In our custom LAME MT MP3 encoding test, we convert a large WAV file to the MP3 format, which is a popular scenario that many end users work with on a day-to-day basis to provide portability and storage of their digital audio content.  LAME is an open-source mid to high bit-rate and VBR (variable bit rate) MP3 audio encoder that is used widely around the world in a multitude of third party applications.

LAME MT
Audio Encoding

In this test, we created our own 223MB WAV file (a hallucinogenically-induced Grateful Dead jam) and converted it to the MP3 format using the multi-thread capable LAME MT application in single and multi-thread modes. Processing times are recorded below, listed in seconds. Once again, shorter times equate to better performance. 


 


Move along, folks.  Nothing to see here.  Our custom LAME MT benchmark didn't show any performance differences between the Intel-powered systems.

Kribibench v1.1
CPU-Bound 3D Rendering

For this next batch of tests, we ran Kribibench v1.1, a 3D rendering benchmark produced by the folks at Adept Development.  Kribibench is an SSE aware software renderer where a 3D model is rendered and animated by the host CPU and the average frame rate is reported.  We used two of the included models with this benchmark: a "Sponge Explode" model consisting of over 19.2 million polygons and the test suite's "Ultra" model that is comprised of over 16 billion polys.


 


The P45-based Asus P5Q Deluxe put up slightly better scores than the X48 / DDR2 combo in the Kribibench rendering tests, but fell slightly behind the DDR3-equipped X48 system.  The performance deltas separating the systems, however, were quite small to say the least.
 

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Cinebench R10 and 3DMark06


Cinebench R10 is an OpenGL 3D rendering performance test based on Cinema 4D. Cinema 4D from Maxon is a 3D rendering and animation tool suite used by 3D animation houses and producers like Sony Animation and many others.  It's very demanding of system processor resources and is an excellent gauge of pure computational throughput.

Cinebench R10
3D Rendering

This is a multi-threaded, multi-processor aware benchmark that renders a single 3D scene and tracks performance through the entire process. The overall scores put up by each system in the single and multi-threaded tests are represented in the graph below.



We had a very tight grouping in the Cinebench R10 tests.  The P45-based Asus P5Q Deluxe posted the best score in the single threaded test, but the X48 based system pulled ahead slightly in the multi-threaded one.  The performance deltas were once again, quite small.

Futuremark 3DMark06
Synthetic DirectX Gaming

3DMark06's built-in CPU test is a multi-threaded DirectX gaming metric that's useful for comparing relative performance between similarly equipped systems.  This test consists of two different 3D scenes that are processed with a software renderer that is dependent on the host CPU's performance.  Calculations that are normally reserved for your 3D accelerator are instead sent to the CPU for processing and rendering.  The frame-rate generated in each test is used to determine the final score.





It was another photo-finish in the 3DMark06 CPU performance test.  Technically, the P5Q Deluxe put up the best score, but its 12 point margin of victory falls well within the margin of error in this test.

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Gaming: Crysis and F.E.A.R.


For our next set of tests, we moved on to some in-game benchmarking with Crysis and F.E.A.R. When testing motherboards or processors with Crysis or F.E.A.R., we drop the resolution to 800x600, and reduce all of the in-game graphical options to their minimum values to isolate CPU and memory performance as much as possible.  However, the in-game effects, which control the level of detail for the games' physics engines and particle systems, are left at their maximum values, since these actually do place some load on the CPU rather than GPU.

Low-Resolution Gaming: Crysis and F.E.A.R.
Taking the GPU out of the Equation





Remember those lower peak memory bandwidth and higher latency scores in the SiSoft SANDRA benchmarks? Well, here's where they've appeared to have an affect.  In both the Crysis and F.E.A.R. low-resolution tests, the P45 based Asus P5Q Deluxe finished behind its X48-based counterparts, to the tune of 6% to 10%.  We suspect there is still some BIOS tuning work to do, to get the P45's performance up here a bit.

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Power Consumption


Before we bring this article to a close, we'd like to cover a few final data points. Throughout all of our benchmarking and testing, we monitored how much power our test systems were consuming using a power meter. Our goal was to give you all an idea as to how much power each configuration used while idling and under a heavy workload. Please keep in mind that we were testing total system power consumption at the outlet here, not just the power being drawn by the motherboards alone.

Total System Power Consumption
Tested at the Outlet




With a new northbridge manufactured using a more advanced 65nm process and an updated southbridge stripped of some legacy features, we expected the P45 chipset to require less power than the X48.  And we were right.  While idling, the P45-based P5 Deluxe consumed 11 - 13 fewer watts than the X48 boards.  And under load that delta increased to 12 - 15 watts.  Considering its relatively low power consumption and the low operating temperatures we witnessed, we'd say the P45 is going to be well suited to quiet / silent computing applications.

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Our Summary and Conclusion


Performance Summary: The Asus P5Q Deluxe performed well throughout our testing. In the synthetic SANDRA benchmarks, the board posted slightly lower scores than a comparably equipped X48-based system, but that didn't hold the P5Q back in the majority of our real-world application tests.  In PCMark Vantage the P5Q put up some solid performance numbers, and it finished neck and neck with or slightly ahead of the X48 in our 3D rendering and encoding tests. It was only in the gaming tests that the P45-based Asus P5Q Deluxe trailed by a few percentage points.





Although we didn't receive a full retail-ready Asus P5Q Deluxe for testing purposes, we're still confident in drawing a few conclusions here.  Even though there is still some obvious BIOS tuning work to do, the P45-based P5Q Deluxe's performance at this early stage was very good and we had no problems with instability to speak of.  Overclocking was also quick and painless, power consumption was relatively low, and the chipset ran nice and cool.  Taking all of these characteristics into consideration, we can't help but like the P45 and suspect it is going to be as popular as last year's P35.

Asus particular implementation of the chipset on the P5Q Deluxe was also good.  The board is loaded with useful features like Express Gate, integrated power and reset switches, and quality passive cooling.  The board's layout is also good for the most part, with the only potential issue being the placement of the first two expansion slots directly in line with the DIMM slots.  We won't know final "street" prices for a few weeks, but expect pricing for this board to fall somewhere in between high-end P35's and mid-range X38 / X48 based offerings (Update: ASUS has informed us that the MSRP for this board will be $209).  All in all, the P45 and P5Q Deluxe are not revolutionary, but its performance and features are sure to entice the mainstream crowd.

 

  • Good Performance
  • Myriad of Overclocking Options
  • Low Power Consumption
  • Runs Very Cool
  • Express Gate
  • Memory Scores Lower than X48
  • Not Available Yet



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