Titanfall Developer Claims Xbox One Doesn't Need DX12 To Amp Up Titanfall

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One of the hot topics in the wake of Titanfall's launch has been whether or not DirectX 12 would make a difference to the game's sometimes jerky framerate and lower-than-expected 792p resolution. According to Titanfall developer Jon Shirling, the new Microsoft API isn't needed to improve the game's performance, and updates coming down the pipe should improve Xbox One play in the near future.



This confirms what we've expected since DX12 was announced -- the API may offer performance improvements in certain scenarios, but DX12 isn't a panacea for the Xbox One's lackluster performance compared to the PS4. It's an API that appears to mostly address scenarios where the CPU isn't able to keep the GPU fed due to draw call bottlenecks. In other words, Mantle and DirectX 12 are slated to perform best when a CPU can't keep a GPU fed. And that can be a problem -- but it isn't an automatic problem in every title or scenario.

It's entirely possible that the custom, Win8-derived OS that MS already runs on the Xbox One has less problems in this area to start with. Failing that, draw calls simply may not be much of a problem for the Xbox One overall. In fact, were we to suspect a problem, it comes down to other aspects of the system design -- either the 10% of hardware that's still reserved for Kinect, possible utilization differences between Sony and Microsoft's OS environments, or the size and speed of the 32MB onboard EDRAM cache.




We're not anti-DX12 by any means, but current evidence suggests that the benefits of the new API will be specific and particular to certain situations, not a unilateral "Everything is faster now." The bigger point of the new API is that it will give developers more freedom to write multi-threaded products that take advantage of an increased number of draw calls. Doing that effectively, however, will require new toolsets and software design.

The long-term benefit of DirectX 12 is that it may give developers the option of taking advantage of multi-threaded CPU cores in a way they currently can't -- but since those benefits are blocked off in DX11, simply porting a game to DX12 isn't enough to unlock its potential.

The big-picture good news out of data is that performance updates and possibly a resolution boost for Titanfall are still coming and gamers won't have to wait until 2015 for a DX12 release to take advantage of them. 
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acarzt replied on Sat, Apr 12 2014 10:02 AM

It could also just be that they are defensive of their game and tired of hearing crap about poor performance lol

"Don't tell us how to do our jobs, we are already working on it" kind of thing...

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RMD replied on Sat, Apr 12 2014 10:25 AM

Titanfall is Better on PC but there's not many players, with Microsoft bragging about Titanfall using Azure Servers, they couldn't manage to let PC and XBONE play together? >:-(

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It's a lovely Idea RJeffries - but in practice it simply won't ever work. A handheld controller gamer can't keep up with a mouse and keyboard player, you have a much greater response speed and accuracy with a mouse. For this reason you ideally want to separate the two groups of players.

Don't misunderstand, I love a controller based fps - they are lots of fun, and that's what it's all about. A mouse is simply a better controller for an fps.

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@RJeffries , @PaulHutchinson

They tried that once, cant remember what game it was.

They even tried restricting the speed of the mouse and still the mouse users obliterated the joy kids.

But then its not just the hardware, we all know that pc users are the only real gamers, the rest are joystick wiggling no talents who need their auto aim ;)

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StaticFX replied on Tue, Apr 15 2014 9:43 AM

RMD:

Titanfall is Better on PC but there's not many players, with Microsoft bragging about Titanfall using Azure Servers, they couldn't manage to let PC and XBONE play together? >:-(

i think the issue is security. XBL is essentially a closed network. If you open the doorway between PC and LIVE players, there could be hackers. Pretty sure no one has been able to hack live yet.

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How does this CONFIRM ANYTHING?? Shiring BEGINS his comment by stating "we don't know much about dx12 yet". So his lack of knowledge about dx12 is confirmation of your lack of knowledge about dx12? Um...sure...that makes total sense...i guess...

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realneil replied on Wed, Apr 16 2014 8:54 PM

PeterIrlam:
we all know that pc users are the only real gamers, the rest are joystick wiggling no talents who need their auto aim ;)

 

Ha-Ha! Next time just say what you mean! Smile

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