2nd generation i5s and i7s are really worth it?

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urielsd Posted: Wed, Jan 4 2012 12:27 PM

I was wondering this since the main difference between first and second generation processors is the onboard GPU, and I intend to use a good vid card, so I won't be using the onboard one. Basically my question is: Should I go for the cheaper first gen or should I pick  the 2nd gen? It's going to be a gaming rig mostly.

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Get the 2nd gen as it will ensure you are future proof. Not all of the 2nd gen come with Integrated Graphics, it depends what your budget is.  look at this one  i.e no integrated graphics-----  Intel ® Core™ i7-3930K Processor  and there are more it all depends on you.

 

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krikle replied on Mon, Jan 16 2012 11:15 PM

If you're a gamer -- the 2nd gen is your best bet I would say.

But ...if you are a gamer .. you definitely want to look into a discrete video card and not bother with integrated graphics at all.   I did a build for my cousin wo is a major gamer. I went with a 2nd gen i5 and he's had no problems, 6 GB of DDR3 RAM and I went with a 1GB Nvidia card ( can't remember the exact model now). He's had no complaints. But I don't know how well you would fair with integrated graphics if you're into gaming hard core.

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I would say go for a 2nd gen. Although it's more expensive. I could be a better investment. Since no new motherboards are being released for the 1st gen. and 2nd gen  will get you more newer features. :) 

 

Unless you really wanna stick to a tight budget, then go for a 1st gen. 

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AKwyn replied on Tue, Jan 17 2012 9:17 AM

The second generation is worth it, even more worth it if you're overclocking. The 22nm is guaranteed to bring less heat, lesser power consumption and massive overclocking potential, mainly due to the fact that it has a higher overclock barrier due to the stuff above; just imagine a 6-core CPU built with this stuff. The 1st gen is okay but the 2nd gen you have to buy into now mainly because you'll be future proofing yourself for what comes later.

Just a sidenote: all the CPU's in the 2nd gen do not contain onboard GPU's, only a select few do.

 

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Tottally agree with you. But i don't think so he can futureproof himself much with anything of intel, because in a few months time the sockets always change. Then comes the ram compatibility.

The tech world is changing so fast.  Hard to keep up. I think only the times of LGA775 was something like future proofing (to an extent) 

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Well, if  you think that way, you will never buy a product from intel. It's a story that will never end.That's why you should not upgrade that often.

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LOL. Overall,  any  technology isn't future-proof. I Was just trying to make that point.

I don't think i would go for AMD, because of it's lack of performance (but AMD makes good budget systems).

And well you should upgrade often if you don't wanna suffer loss with your system. You could buy a high-end system and then run it for a couple of years and quite quickly you would barely get 10-20% of that price (least loss faced with Processor and graphic card)  

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Well, upgrading often is more for enthusiast And hardcore gamers or Overclockers.Any Cpu right now is future proof anyways.I think you don't get the concept "future proof"

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Aoshi replied on Wed, Jan 18 2012 1:47 PM

Honestly not so much. They are very good cores and I say you should try and get them for a good price. But I don't pay much more than $250 for a core.  Granted it should be the bulk of the price right up there with the Mobo and especially gfx card. I have a Q9300 (an old Quad core now)  and I haven't found myself asking "Why isn't this faster?"

 

My only limitation is the graphics card from what I can see.

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well yea but rich people don't care about money :) if this is the case its up to your budget.

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urielsd replied on Fri, Jan 20 2012 3:49 PM

OK, thanks for all the replies. I'll go for a 2nd gen i5.

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Great choice ;) 

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no problem we are here to help :) good choice

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nhwynter replied on Fri, Feb 17 2012 3:08 PM

Here is the link for some pricing info on the Ivy Bridge chips coming out.. 

 

http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/t/59351.aspx

 

Should help with your decision.

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FTian replied on Mon, Jun 4 2012 12:02 AM

gamer or not a gamer....

the 2nd generation intel processors are faster than the "core duo or the pentium" (outdated processor). The i3 (2nd gen); is faster than intel duo or intel pentium. The $100 or $200 in the 2nd gen intel processor is worth your time to research and put forth investment.

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i just got the intel 2700k a few months ago and it flys through anything i run on my computer. so i would recommend going with the 2nd gen sandy bridge

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How about the new Ivy Bridge?

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