In this latest episode of HotHardware's Two and Half Geeks, Dave, Iyaz and Marco talk about Thermaltake's Level 10 GT Snow Edition chassis, our AMD 990FX Motherboard Round-Up with Asus, ASRock, Gigabyte, a sneak peek at the Alienware M18x mammoth gaming notebook, the ASUS MARS II graphics card with dual GeForce GTX 580s in SLI on one PCB, HOT Deals of the Day, our Back to School shopping guide and our Labor Day gaming-system giveaway!
Wow both that laptop and GPU are monsters of course with the relative performance it seems. SO you guys have actually played with some bulldozer goodness, or did you test those MB's with AM2+ chips, and if you did how in the world do we know how they will perform with a Bulldozer in them relatively?
Article as created using a current Phenom chip, but I have personally seen Bulldozer running in two of them. Though they're all compatible. We'll have Bulldozer numbers soon enough. :)
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w00t nice broadcast. That graphics card is an absolute beast, don't get any sweat in it . The deal of the day is a great feature for a site like this, the only think I have noticed is LogicBuy tends to have a lot of Dell products :) not that there is anything wrong with that.
LOL a 5 pound brick! :D
Great webcast, been waiting for it :)
That Mars II graphic card is insane!
The grudge match should be interesting...
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'Best episode ever, All Computer Hardware, no tablets in sights, LOL. I just saw the Level 10 review on Youtube, why has it not been published on the site? What Im excited about is the upcoming review of the Alienware M18x. Let me say that Im not wild about Alienware Desktop, the looks are outdated and the bang for buck is not there, but The Alienware Laptops are in another class.'
"I have not seen a review anywhere of a comparison with two M18x with Dual GPUs of the latest offerings from Nvidia and AMD. Crossfire 6990M vs 580M, its going to be a historic article, cant really predict the outcome, its going to be very interesting."
"Marco, seeing that the MARS II has two full fledged GTX 580s, you can you add a regular GTX 580 to the mix right? That be cool to see benchmarks on that setup since you Miraculously still have it"
Marco@5:47 "But the real Key to the story is that Bulldozer is Coming, and 990FX chipsets is where is its going to be at for Enthusiasts"
"A great Hint of what's happening in the labs"
another great podcast ! Always very enjoyable & full of surprises.Sure like the preview video with the Snow Edition Level 10 that I had on my FB page as well..I dunno 'coicertainly not getting any younger lol >> > but for some reason got the Jethro Tull 'Thick as a Brick ' track in my head while posting this. ,,go figure
Geez one sure was to get some perspective is to just hold up that Mars Card ! YeoooWZers ! It's a big mutha "
Yep Asus sure nailed it down right with the UEFI Bios.. Look forward to seeing more about Bulldozer as always but one of the things I do make a habit in my stops in HH is the Daily Deals thread. it open my eyes a bit more to what's up and get tuned in to products that may have been noticed elsewhere.
Thanks and have a Nice Holiday Weekend
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ASUS Mars is bad to the bone. The Dell Lappy is too. The Level 10 case is something I would really like to own. It's classy looking.
I enjoyed the banter this time and your new contest is rockin' for those willing to use facebook. I wish all the luck to those of you that do.
Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live.
So no truth to the rumor that Bulldozer has been pushed back a bit?
Wheatley:"Marco, seeing that the MARS II has two full fledged GTX 580s, you can you add a regular GTX 580 to the mix right? That be cool to see benchmarks on that setup since you Miraculously still have it"
SLI doesn't work that way. I mean if SLI worked like crossfire then we'd have GTX 570's SLI'd up with GTX 580's.
The reason it would not work out is because the MARS II is esentially a beefed up GTX 590 and according to NVIDIA, it's technically one card and for SLI to work, it'd require the exact same card that you have in your hands (AKA The Mars II).
It'd be cool if SLI worked like Crossfire though.
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HarryHenderson:The reason it would not work out is because the MARS II is esentially a beefed up GTX 590 and according to NVIDIA, it's technically one card and for SLI to work, it'd require the exact same card that you have in your hands (AKA The Mars II).
"I thought that the MARS II is a custom made , Full ,dual GTX580 graphics cards made by Asus, where did you you get that Info? I think I read in another review , not sure where, that you can put another GTX580 in the mix and get Tri Sli because, the MARS II is or are, essentially, TWO full GTX 580"
Wheatley:"I thought that the MARS II is a custom made , Full ,dual GTX580 graphics cards made by Asus, where did you you get that Info?
It is, it's a metaphor. Beefing up means to make something better.
Wheatley:I think I read in another review , not sure where, that you can put another GTX580 in the mix and get Tri Sli because, the MARS II is or are, essentially, TWO full GTX 580"
I looked up that and I found the review, unfortunately the reviewer in general has a very large credibility problem so I'm inclined to have a hard time believing the review. Also it said "in theory", which means it may or may not work. Both cards would be detected the same way with GPU-Z. Each being a single card, each having two GPU's. I'm guessing the driver will be similar to that of a GTX 590 and therefore what I said would be true.
Of course, if anybody has a MARS II and a GTX 580, they could test their theory with it and prove us either right or wrong.
A GTX-590 is two under-clocked 580's on one PCB, running at a lower speed and with less features than single 580's would have running. This is to control power usage and to reduce heat output. It's performance is damn good. It's a ~dual card~ in one. Everyone knows that two GTX-580's in SLI will outperform a single GTX-590.
The Mars-II is a little different,......it is two ~fully clocked and completely enabled~ GTX-580's on one PCB. They don't care about the heat output because they've got it under control with their awesome cooling configuration. As for the power usage, if you can afford the card, you can afford to power the damn thing. And, as Marco said, nothing else comes close to it for pure performance.
It's also a ~dual card~ in one. To get proper SLI with either of them, You'd probably have to match cards in each PCI-E slot.
wow i would love to have that Alienware M18X laptop..it would be amazing
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