A Handful of Salt: Analyzing Early Bulldozer Benchmarks

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Enthusiasts and professionals alike have long been curious about Bulldozer's performance. It's been hard to predict how the CPU will perform compared to Intel's Nehalem and Sandy Bridge; Bulldozer's unique shared execution units are a considerable departure from anything else on the market.

Leaked benchmarks courtesy of have shed some light on what we might see when the processor launches. David Kanter of Real World Technologies has compared the Bulldozer results against Magny-Cours performance, but warns that it's unwise to draw conclusions based on engineering samples. There's a dearth of information regarding which compiler options were selected or if AVX was enabled. Finally, there's clockspeed—the Bulldozer ES processors were running at 1.8GHz. AMD has previously indicated that Bulldozer will launch at clockspeeds well above this figure; current Magny-Cours chips top out at 2.3GHz—nearly 30 percent faster. We also don't know how fast the integrated memory controller was running—as Kanter points out, AMD's snoop filter may not have been functioning properly when these benchmarks were run.

AMD's Bulldozer.

Check RWT's article if you want specific numbers, but we'll say this: The results are erratic. Bulldozer soundly beats Magny-Cours in some areas, only to fall well behind in others. This loosely matches our expectations given Bulldozer's shared FPU, but the size of the gap between MC and BD may well be due to other intervening variables.

We don't have enough information to draw any solid conclusions. The comparative data suggests that Bulldozer may have traded significant performance increases in certain areas for significant decreases in others. Without further information on compiler flags and the ES chips themselves, it's impossible to judge whether or not the bet paid off. AMD has always claimed that Bulldozer was designed to meet the core needs of the server market while conserving die space and minimizing production costs. It's not unreasonable to think that Sunnyvale is counting on higher clockspeeds and larger caches to achieve or surpass Magny-Cours in sub-optimal workloads.

If the performance gap we see here reflects real-world measurements, it'll be difficult for Bulldozer to match Sandy Bridge. AMD's attempt to compete with Intel by selling cores at a 2:1 ratio in the server market last year has yielded scant results. The implication is that Bulldozer may actually end up losing to Intel's Sandy Bridge-based Xeons by a wider margin than as present.

At the moment, Bulldozer's performance eerily resembles the P4—and that's not exactly a ringing endorsement. With any luck, proper compiler flags and the new AVX instructions will minimize any performance losses we might see when comparing next-generation processors. For now, we're cautiously optimistic. It's important to keep expectations in line with reality—Bulldozer, even if it's great, isn't likely to bound the gap between AMD and Intel in one amazing product generation.
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LLeCompte replied on Thu, Mar 31 2011 3:46 PM

for the market's sake, i hope the performance is enough to challenge intel. All i know is i love my x6 phenom, it handles everything amazingly and i didnt have to pay a bunch of money for it.

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realneil replied on Thu, Mar 31 2011 7:58 PM

I hope AMD gets a winner in this release. I'm all for their continued existence because they help to keep Intel's prices in check.

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"I'm all for their continued existence because they help to keep Intel's prices in check." Agreed! I don't run AMD at this time but I'd love to see more competition for Intel. As it stands right now, I think Intel charges about 20-50% too much for their processors.

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rapid1 replied on Thu, Mar 31 2011 10:42 PM

I agree with all of the other comments on this I also do hope this is due to early release processors as well. I was hoping for another killer CPU line from AMD with this one specifically. While we do not know what the release units will be like lets keep hoping these early engineering release chips are just the bottom step in the functional release units.

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I hope the bulldozer doesnt dip to far to Phenom II perfomance levels...I read a few other articles about these benchmarks and people were saying that it could perform similar to the Pentium 4 with HT. Supposedly under certain loads it perfoms surprisingly well but under others it the SMT actually reduces performance significantly....i hope that isnt the case.Im rooting for you AMD! In anycase this is a really interesting step in the X86 market, it will be interesting to see how this changes the market and possible future processors from both sides.

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Oh and what i meant by similar to P4HT was that the SMT can impact perfomance negatively, not that it will pefrom similarly.

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DRivera replied on Fri, Apr 1 2011 2:15 AM

The name just sounds cool ... BULLDOZER!!!!

Way better then Sandy Vagina.. i mean bridge.

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I'm pulling for AMD as well. They have proven they can beat Intel as they did with the FX line back in the day.

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James86 replied on Mon, Apr 4 2011 10:21 AM

I am hoping to see some real performance numbers coming out soon

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