Increasingly, we go online for collaboration and social interaction...Nowhere is this more evident than on social networking sites. These sites...often requir quite a bit of processing power both in the cloud and on the client. The client-side processing is in fact increasing as the experience becomes more visually engaging, in the browser and the internet applications, and in the media players. It is because of that balanced cloud computing need: low power to stay connected longer, with enough local visual compute power for media rich activities, that “Zacate” is poised to be a fantastic no-compromise mainstream platform and ideal for cloud computing with highly-mobile form factors.
"AMD has a history of skirting such tests with its existing products"
That's a shame. AMD shouldn't try to look like douches, that's more big Intel's job.
This is a very fine tightrope. AMD's marketing/PR team has to make the product look good.That's easy when you've got a product that absolutely kicks ass--back in the Prescott vs. Athlon 64 days, you had to search to find tests AMD *didn't* win. It's harder when you've been competing with Shanghai and Phenom II against Core i7.
AMD highlighted tests it presumably did very well in. There's nothing wrong with that and it doesn't make them douches. It's just worth noting that we saw a very small and particular set of tests.
But it is hard to compare the CPU power when i5 is 35W TDP and Zocate is only 18W and icludes a more powerful graphics.
But I must admit that i am looking forward to seeing the CPU performace numbers.
On a sidenote, does this incorporate the chipset as well?
Yeah AMD always likes to keeps things close to their chest, they don't like talking specifics about upcoming products either! Just look at the info they released for the Bulldozer and Bobcat which is basically was as much info as Intel showed last year for Sandy Bridge and a lot of the stuff is still ambigious.
That's a strategy. Scooping yourself rarely works well.
That is on par with what I though. AMD had the GPU crown but Intel had the CPU crown. It comes down to what you use your PC for. In a media rich world we live in today I would say the GPU will play a more important factor than the CPU.
It is this reason I think AMD is sitting nicely in the driver seat going forward, although if Intel can pull something out of the hat this could get interesting.
Intel's integrated GPUs have gotten much better over the past few years. The question isn't whether or not AMD's are superior, but whether or not consumers will care once Intel's offer all the consumer features AMD's do.
The only thing Intel's current integrated GPU is missing that your average notebook buyer might care about is hardware decode. That already limits AMD's appeal to a certain small segment of the market. I don't think Intel's actually going to catch AMD anytime soon, but I also don't think the consumer market is going to particularly care.
If the performance between products is close, then I would probably buy the AMD part. We need to keep them around for a long time because they keep Intel's prices a little more grounded and out of the stratosphere. (yeah, I know that they sell $1,000.00 CPU's)
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For more on ati radeon 6000 series release date http://lensfire.blogspot.com/search/label/ati%206000%20series%20evolved
My take is that AMD will have a superior graphics core and will likely score some solid design wins with this chip. Market acceptance can also be a funny thing some times. If the OEMs are offering certain builds at the right price, it might not be a question of whether or not the customer cares but what is marketed to them and what they're informed about. And the beat goes on, as they say...
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I expect Zacate and Ontario will both score some solid design wins, but I think Ontario's superior graphics core will shine much more effectively against Atom than Zacate's will against Core i3. We might have to wait awhile for mobile Llano--rumors off the grapevine suggest that part may not be available until next summer.
Well the difference with this is AMD NEEDS to create a buzz about this and they aren't going to get it just sitting back because Intel sure as hell will not stop promoting their Sandy Bridge before it comes. How long have we been hearing about Sandy Bridge? We even know so much of how its going to be and lets be honest here, AMD is playing catch up as Bulldozer is really late and was supposed to be here by now. They don't have to reveal trade secrets but what they did reveal really isn't much (and barely exciting) compared to what Intel has shown and demonstrated. If they limit the exposure too much people will think they don't have the confidence in their own product and in turn investors and buyers will not have confidence in them as well.
I agree Dave I have herd the term "marketecture" used before and this sounds like a perfect example.
Marcitechture is a term invented by Mike Magee (of the Inquirer and Register). It refers to a situation where a product has been specifically designed to emphasize marketing over product sales. The Pentium 4 is the classic example of a marchitecture product.
AMD began sending samples of cayman, so radeon fans won't be buying entry level zacate http://lensfire.blogspot.com/2010/10/amd-began-sending-samples-of-cayman-xt.html
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