School District Admits Taking Inappropriate Photos in Laptop Spying Case

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We've been following the Lower Merion school district investigation ever since a student at the school, one Blake Robbins, was accused of engaging in improper behavior based on evidence captured by his school-provided laptop's webcam. Investigative reports now indicate that the school either lied through its teeth about the degree to which cameras were activated or was negligent—possibly criminally negligent—in exercising appropriate oversight of how the system was being used by the staff who had access.

The Story Thus Far

When Blake's parents began asking how the school had come by its evidence, the district admitted that it had installed third-party software that allowed it to activate the webcam of any particular laptop at any time. Lower Merion admitted to an error in judgment in not notifying parents of their remote webcam policies, but initially maintained that the school only activated webcams on laptops that had been reported lost or stolen, and that no systems had been activated inappropriately. From the beginning, this didn't make much sense—Robbins' laptop had never been reported missing, which meant the photographic evidence used by Lower Merion's Assistant Principal to punish him should never have existed in the first place.

One other fun note. The case itself focuses mostly on webcam activity, but the LANrev software package installed on the students' notebooks allowed for a great deal more than remote photo-taking. It's now apparent that other details, including chat logs, web histories, and personal conversations were also available for the taking.

If It Waddles Like A Duck...


This is a duck. Note the distinctive duck-like features and the webbed feet.

Late last week, the Robbins' attourney filed a brief claiming that the school district snapped thousands of photos that documented all aspects of their lives, including the chat rooms and websites they frequented, their IM conversations, and an undocumented amount of really bad cybering. (We made that last one up, but seriously, you know it had to happen). The specific details of several inappropriate monitoring events are detailed on pages three and four of this PDF.


One of the inappropriate photos submitted as evidence by the plaintiffs.

The brief specifically mentions school IT administrator Carol Cafiero as referring to the capability as a window into "a little LMSD soap opera," and telling workers that she "loved" the webcam's capability. Cafiero, it must be noted, hasn't exactly helped her own case. Over the past month, she's taken the 5th to avoid answering every question she's been asked, refused to comply with court orders, and attempted to quash the subpoena that requires her to turn over her personal PC and equipment for investigation.

It Must Be Something Else.


Despite the evidence of duckery, Lower Merion would prefer you believe—and blame—something else. Possibly something like this.


The Lower Merion school district is frantically reassuring parents that it intends to fully disclose all of the webcam photos that were taken while simultaneously maintaining that no photos were inappropriately taken. On April 16, one day after the plaintiff's filing, school board president David Ebby released a statement addressing the issue:

the plaintiffs' motion suggests that the LANrev tracking feature may have been used for the purposes of 'spying' on students. While
we deeply regret the mistakes and misguided actions that have led us to this situation, at this late stage of the investigation we are not aware
of any evidence that District employees used any LANrev Webcam photographs or screenshots for such inappropriate purposes.
Fortunately for Lower Merion, in a court case, you aren't "aware" of something until it's been accepted as evidence by a judge. Given the current state of the investigation, it seems likely that the blame is going to end up squarely on Carol Cafiero. If that happens, you can bet Lower Merion will be tugging on the noose, anxious to paint the entire affair as the result of one bad seed. Don't be fooled. The real question here is why the school district felt it had the right to engage in such behavior, and how Cafiero (if convicted) was able to get away with what she did without anyone else noticing. Even if the illicit actions in Lower Merion started and ended with a single person, the errors that allowed such abuses to occur are systemic.

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Inspector replied on Mon, Apr 19 2010 7:35 AM

Wow they took a photo if him sleeping, and undressing (maybe some fully undressed...)

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3vi1 replied on Mon, Apr 19 2010 8:16 AM

This just boggles the mind. If this all turns out to be true, I hope they throw the book at her as an example to others that think they can put telescreens in our homes.

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I am afraid that this is only the tip of the iceberg!

Image all the other schools that have either gotten away with doing thing like this, or are still doing it, and just not getting caught. If you wish to understand how this perversion is allowed to happen, just look who we have as our safe schools Czar!

Apparently they also have photos and possibly video of his sister as well. I can not believe that people are allowed to behave like this and not sent to the chamber! Not only is it allowed to continue, but they let these people get off on a technicality and then you get incidents like you did in San Diego. Of course this is all great for the leftist lawyers because then they get to have high profile cases and do their best to get these people out. Because they are protecting peoples civil liberties. What about the children's safety and well being! If we threw child molesters down a five mile hole in the ground , and they knew that would be their fate then we would have less of this stuff.

This is in no way confined to only one school, I am sure that everyone of the schools out there that have a laptop program have inappropriate web cam issues just like this. IF not then all the pervs out there are scrambling to find out how to hack into their systems and get little glimpses themselves. I just hope that right now all the kids are going around and taking the wireless out of the laptops and painting over the webcam, Carol is probably really a front scapegoat for the people who were really figuring this out and doing it.

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la_guy_10 replied on Mon, Apr 19 2010 8:48 AM

Just another case of "Big Brother" starring you down. It appears they definitely overstepped their boundaries here.This is how I see it playing out right now Lower Merion is in ignorant mode: "What, Who, we are not aware of any breach of information". It will then proceed to hot potato mode: everybody throw it off on the next person, to hot to handle type of situation, this will only buy time though. Finally they will single out someone to pin the blame on, this is what hot potato mode is for, figuring out who will take the fall.

This reminds me of the song "Private eye, there watching you, they see your every move" by Hall and Oates

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This is a massive child porn case involving dozens of children now. The IT department deleted a ton of pictures before the cops got ahold of the systems. You just know if they manage to recover pictures, some are going to be nude.

There appears to be thousands of pictures that the cops have recovered of dozens of children. Reading the linked PDF is really interesting.

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Joel H replied on Mon, Apr 19 2010 10:55 AM

Infinity,

Statistically, you may have a point. However, I think it's extremely premature to call this "a massive child porn case" before evidence has been discover that indicates it is, in fact, a child porn case.

It's absolutely possible. It may even be likely. But given the severity of the charge, I'm not going to level it without proof.

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Sounds like a perverts to me, they can see them undressing and snapped thousands of photos.

But yes, we'll have to wait for the actual evidence before concluding

Even if they were supposedly "tracking the computers" once they realized they were with the assigned students they should of immediately turned off the tracking camera and deleted the photos.

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AKwyn replied on Mon, Apr 19 2010 1:44 PM

This is just another invasion of privacy.

Surprisingly privacy in this day of age is nonexistent, mostly anything you can look up on a person is on the internet. But this is an unforgivable invasion of privacy, I mean the guys should of just turned off the camera, not try to gather as much info as they can on this boy and watch their personal life for anything, what also worries me is that they used the webcam just to see somebody naked. I don't know why people do this but why would you want to use the webcam to do that?

Case in point, the guys should lose their jobs over this. This was supposed to track the student's notebooks in case they got stolen, not for spying on people. I don't know why there were spying but if they had reasons then it wouldn't be reasonable to anybody. They spied on a kid without permission and without his knowledge.

 

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Of course it's an invasion of privacy, but it's also a major misuse of power and responsibility. I believe that they were just pretending to be ignorant of the fact that they could access the webcams through wireless means regardless of it's location. I bet that things like this happen all the time throughout district's but either people are just really good at covering their tracks or that nobody has had enough evidence to use against the schools. 

What I want to know, is what the school thought what purpose the webcams would serve if the laptop was stolen. Tracking devices would be much easier, and it wouldn't matter if it was at a students address since that's already on the database. The whole webcam thing a was idea from the get go. Were the students even notified that these webcams could be wirelessly activated and accessed? You would think that the school would enforce this idea to encourage theft not to happen. But no, they made a costly error...and error in judgement? Psshhh, that's like standard policy. 

Which then brings me to the fact that this kids laptop was never reported stolen. And we're just inches deep into the investigation already and it's already looking bad for this guy. But like you said, it doesn't even stop at the webcam access that makes this case really take off. I wonder what school would think that it was a good idea to have software that even monitors user history as well?  It's sad that they can't take up responsibility, it's time to fess up towards your actions and suffer the consequences.

Which THEN brings me to Carol Cafiero. Shame shame. She can't even answer one question that has been forwarded to her and she has yet to hand over her computer for investigation? Jesus...did she record and document the information taken from these students? Personally though, as irresponsible as this entire situation is, only Carol being blamed for this situation is really a bullet dodge for Lower Merion. I'm sure that once the case is over that everyone will want to forget about this. 

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In case anyone didn't see this, PBS has a documentary called Digital Nation and the clip below shows the same high school that's in trouble showing off the tracking software:

It is sad to see these people spying on kids like this.  I know the high school I graduated from is looking at buying laptops for every student.  I hope they are wise as to what they use for tracking software (knowing the IT guy, I'm actually a little worried)

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AKwyn replied on Mon, Apr 19 2010 6:55 PM

Marius Malek:

Of course it's an invasion of privacy, but it's also a major misuse of power and responsibility. I believe that they were just pretending to be ignorant of the fact that they could access the webcams through wireless means regardless of it's location. I bet that things like this happen all the time throughout district's but either people are just really good at covering their tracks or that nobody has had enough evidence to use against the schools. 

What I want to know, is what the school thought what purpose the webcams would serve if the laptop was stolen. Tracking devices would be much easier, and it wouldn't matter if it was at a students address since that's already on the database. The whole webcam thing a was idea from the get go. Were the students even notified that these webcams could be wirelessly activated and accessed? You would think that the school would enforce this idea to encourage theft not to happen. But no, they made a costly error...and error in judgement? Psshhh, that's like standard policy.

Seems like people are always power hungry these days, they think they can do anything they want and get away it, they think they can control everything within the palm of their hands; and it's power-hungry people that make the world bad. Since the system allowed them to access their computer, they could gain everything from chat logs to pictures of the boy sleeping, apparently accessing the system unknowingly without the kid knowing. And these people were probably gathering around to read and look and watch and I think it's wrong for people to invade someone's privacy for fun or for feeling powerful.

Also. I don't know what they were thinking but I think they might want to catch a face of the thief who stole the laptop, since the webcam can capture images. I also think they might of had a side agenda of using the webcams as some security camera to catch whatever mischief the student with the laptop did. I agree with you that the tracking system is better, it's much more logical and it's less exploitable since it doesn't involve someone using your webcam.

Marius Malek:

Which then brings me to the fact that this kids laptop was never reported stolen. And we're just inches deep into the investigation already and it's already looking bad for this guy. But like you said, it doesn't even stop at the webcam access that makes this case really take off. I wonder what school would think that it was a good idea to have software that even monitors user history as well?  It's sad that they can't take up responsibility, it's time to fess up towards your actions and suffer the consequences.

Which THEN brings me to Carol Cafiero. Shame shame. She can't even answer one question that has been forwarded to her and she has yet to hand over her computer for investigation? Jesus...did she record and document the information taken from these students? Personally though, as irresponsible as this entire situation is, only Carol being blamed for this situation is really a bullet dodge for Lower Merion. I'm sure that once the case is over that everyone will want to forget about this. 

It seems like this school just love to spy on it's students and drip out every juicy drop of information from them. If she refuses to give up the laptop then it's likely that she is also documenting information taken from the students, so is most of the school's staff. I don't know what kind of school would spy on it's students 24/7. I thought it was just two people but, I think it goes much farther, I think these people have an agenda based on the way their behaving.

 

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Inspector replied on Mon, Apr 19 2010 7:05 PM

chevy, "Sounds like a perverts to me, they can see them undressing and snapped thousands of photos."

Also called child pornography which is illegal...

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Marius Malek:

Of course it's an invasion of privacy, but it's also a major misuse of power and responsibility. I believe that they were just pretending to be ignorant of the fact that they could access the webcams through wireless means regardless of it's location. I bet that things like this happen all the time throughout district's but either people are just really good at covering their tracks or that nobody has had enough evidence to use against the schools. 

What I want to know, is what the school thought what purpose the webcams would serve if the laptop was stolen. Tracking devices would be much easier, and it wouldn't matter if it was at a students address since that's already on the database. The whole webcam thing a was idea from the get go. Were the students even notified that these webcams could be wirelessly activated and accessed? You would think that the school would enforce this idea to encourage theft not to happen. But no, they made a costly error...and error in judgement? Psshhh, that's like standard policy.

Seems like people are always power hungry these days, they think they can do anything they want and get away it, they think they can control everything within the palm of their hands; and it's power-hungry people that make the world bad. Since the system allowed them to access their computer, they could gain everything from chat logs to pictures of the boy sleeping, apparently accessing the system unknowingly without the kid knowing. And these people were probably gathering around to read and look and watch and I think it's wrong for people to invade someone's privacy for fun or for feeling powerful.

Also. I don't know what they were thinking but I think they might want to catch a face of the thief who stole the laptop, since the webcam can capture images. I also think they might of had a side agenda of using the webcams as some security camera to catch whatever mischief the student with the laptop did. I agree with you that the tracking system is better, it's much more logical and it's less exploitable since it doesn't involve someone using your webcam.

Marius Malek:

Which then brings me to the fact that this kids laptop was never reported stolen. And we're just inches deep into the investigation already and it's already looking bad for this guy. But like you said, it doesn't even stop at the webcam access that makes this case really take off. I wonder what school would think that it was a good idea to have software that even monitors user history as well?  It's sad that they can't take up responsibility, it's time to fess up towards your actions and suffer the consequences.

Which THEN brings me to Carol Cafiero. Shame shame. She can't even answer one question that has been forwarded to her and she has yet to hand over her computer for investigation? Jesus...did she record and document the information taken from these students? Personally though, as irresponsible as this entire situation is, only Carol being blamed for this situation is really a bullet dodge for Lower Merion. I'm sure that once the case is over that everyone will want to forget about this. 

It seems like this school just love to spy on it's students and drip out every juicy drop of information from them. If she refuses to give up the laptop then it's likely that she is also documenting information taken from the students, so is most of the school's staff. I don't know what kind of school would spy on it's students 24/7. I thought it was just two people but, I think it goes much farther, I think these people have an agenda based on the way their behaving.

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Dear ANIMATORTOM :

Perhaps you should seek instruction from differrent providers to further your education.

"Lefty Lawyers" aren't fighting for the Child Porno School Adminstration's 'Right to Spy' on children/citzens . . .

. . .they are fighting for the PRIVACY Rights that are constantly being erroded, and were under 'NewCueLur' attack the past 8 years.

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Don't forget: BEDROOM CAM is a conservative christian idea... that way we can make sure you are behaving only a christian manner, as god demands, and punish you if you aren't. None of that gay pre-marital non-missionary style self-abuse. and you KNEEL beside your bed when you say your prayers EVERY night. We ARE logging it. Crime Prevention is the Key ! No more stolen laptop terrorists !!!

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eyerant replied on Wed, Apr 21 2010 10:22 PM

Dear Firstsensun,

I think you are the one that needs to be schooled. Those lefty lawyers better known as the ACLU have been nearly silent on this. The local representative stated that this was the worst abuse of the 4th amendment that he has ever seen. Where is the same army of lawyers that rushed to a noose hanging from a tree? I wonder if the ACLU would have sent in their lawyers if this happened in a poor balck or immigrant community. They have spoke more about the terrorist being held at Gitmo than this incident. Where is the national press conference? Where is our constitutional lawyer President? He speaks out about the treatment of a bad tempered professor from Harvard but if this is really one of the worst 4th amendment violations then why has he not directed the AG to make sure the school system administrators are punished? The school systems in this country are so far left that the ACLU would never directly attack them. Instead they give a few interviews and that is it. Go to ACLU.org, not a mention of it on thier front page. Instead they announced they will represent a ***'s right to go to the prom and continue to fight the "illegal war". So don't sit there and tell me those leftist lawyers are defening my right. They are there to push thier agenda. The question what is that agenda? Answer ... look up thier biggest doners. The truth can be found there once you peel back the layers. Eye- Rant

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eyerant replied on Wed, Apr 21 2010 10:32 PM

ok, apparently using the word l3sbian is not allowed... how about gay women !!

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AKwyn replied on Wed, Apr 21 2010 11:15 PM

eyerant, do you have an agenda?

I don't know why you'd bring the ACLU into this discussion. I have not heard one mention of ACLU and I don't know why you would even bring it up, it's not like this is an issue that's globally represented. We have read about a Geek Squad technician installing a camera in her shower so that he can watch her naked, this is basically some guys invading some kids privacy and taking advantage of the fact that they can know all of their dirty little secrets. The evidence is obvious, I don't see why the ACLU has to do anything about it. The school will probably be guilty of invading someones privacy and a hefty fine will probably be given to them, followed by some criminal punishment.

Unless of course, there's an agenda that'll make them not guilty, I'm wondering, are the ACLU minupulating the cases. Cause that would be the greatest conspiracy theory ever if it were true.

Also firstsensun, lay off animatortom, I know for a fact that his posts are weird but he's just saying what's on his mind. PS, I do think you're a little bit crazy. The bedroom cam is the same invasion of privacy that you seem to be against, and the usage of the bedroom cam as "eyes for god" is stupid and even ridiculous for your religion. This won't prevent them from being laptop terrorists, people have free will and people have different opinions. Note they don't have to follow a strict set of rules, they can do anything they want within the limits of the US law.

 

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eyerant replied on Thu, Apr 22 2010 12:14 AM

OK, first of all I was addressing Firstsensun not Animatortom. I am sure he can defend himself.

My agenda is to slam down anyone that defends the ACLU and the leftist lawyers.

Since you don't know why I mention the ACLU I will explain it ... again.

Do you really think this is a slam dunk case? Do you really think defending a gay girls right to take another gay girl to the prom is more important than defending the students of the Lower Merion School district? 56,000 images 56,000 images 56,000 images ... 56,000 thousand counts of violation of the 4th amendment rights. Justice Brandies must be rolling over in his grave.

Apparentely it is to the ACLU and I will tell you why. No conspiracy, just standard operating proceedure. The school district that cancelled the prom broke the leftist rules and therefor will be attacked.

The Lower Merion School District did this deed to make sure the students in this very conservative district were not straying to far to the right. That is my guess as to why. Only the dimwits that set this thing up know the truth.

So was it for perverse reasons or political reasons? I am not buying the pervert reasoning.

They stated themselves it was to "monitor behavior" and I believe them.

Look at the other things they were tracking. This was not done for perverted reasons it was done to insure thier liberal agenda moves forward, thus the lack of attention from the ACLU.

BTW, the word is "manipulating" it comes from the latin word "manus" which means hand.

Sorry, I had to mention that, I hope it was a mis-type. Eye-Rant

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AKwyn replied on Thu, Apr 22 2010 12:31 AM

eyerant:

Do you really think this is a slam dunk case? Do you really think defending a gay girls right to take another gay girl to the prom is more important than defending the students of the Lower Merion School district? 56,000 images 56,000 images 56,000 images ... 56,000 thousand counts of violation of the 4th amendment rights. Justice Brandies must be rolling over in his grave.

Apparentely it is to the ACLU and I will tell you why. No conspiracy, just standard operating proceedure. The school district that cancelled the prom broke the leftist rules and therefor will be attacked.

The Lower Merion School District did this deed to make sure the students in this very conservative district were not straying to far to the right. That is my guess as to why. Only the dimwits that set this thing up know the truth.

First off, I didn't even reference defending a girls rights, I already know where I stand on the issues and it's frankly a non-issue for me. Secondly, how is it standard operating procedure for the ACLU to make a school district take 56,000 images for some "scandal". I'd be more worried if it was a earlier from say I don't know 1-5 years ago. But since this is recent, this holds no merit whatsoever.

The school district had full responsibility over the moral use of the software and yet, they spied on their students. You give no reasons nor any explination for what you think the ACLU might be doing, all you're giving is obvious things such as they're breaking the 4th amendment and something about a "standard operating procedure." Your post also reads like I'm watching Glenn Beck or Bill O'Riley, just superstitious crackpot theories.

Apparently the ACLU is focused on whatever is on their front page, perhaps you did not take the time to look at the rest of the site instead of the front page. That way you can come up with something that seems much more intelligent and reasonable.

eyerant:

So was it for perverse reasons or political reasons? I am not buying the pervert reasoning.

They stated themselves it was to "monitor behavior" and I believe them.

Look at the other things they were tracking. This was not done for perverted reasons it was done to insure thier liberal agenda moves forward, thus the lack of attention from the ACLU.

BTW, the word is "manipulating" it comes from the latin word "manus" which means hand.

Monitoring behavior, perverse things. It's an invasion of privacy; what these kids do is none of the staff's business. They don't have any say in their kids lives and they certainly can't control it like big brother as well, the parents are the ones who shape their kids up, not the schools.

And what other things, all I read on the article was chat logs, documents, stuff that can be found on a computer. Apparently them spying on students and the lawsuit is a good indication of them moving forward, maybe the trial will stop all this... Oh wait, according to you they will get an automatic not guilty verdict because the legal system is corrupt by default and then they will push their liberal agenda forward by having every school monitor our actions.

Also I edited the post above, it was referring to another user. Sorry if I assumed it was you.

 

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The bedroom cam is the same invasion of privacy that you seem to be against, and the usage of the bedroom cam as "eyes for god" is stupid and even ridiculous for your religion.

 

sorry TaylorKarras  - i was writing to illuminate.

 

what's scary . . . this evidently isn't  'far-out enough'  to be regarded as anything else but an illustration.  What a world we live in.

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And I though people who put tape over there web cams were crazy. If I ever have kids I sure as hell will be. Hope they charge there asses with child porn and lock them up. The really sick part is that they still are defending themselves. What is ok about filming a child at home without his knowledge? Sick fucks.

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eyerant replied on Thu, Apr 22 2010 10:08 AM

OK, I understand your points. Let me see if I can make you understnd mine. I never said it would be an "automatic not guilty.

Here is how it works. In most, if not every state the AG is an elected official. It is a mixed bag for judges, some states elect them some are appointed.

In the federal system the president submits his choice for AG and then that choice is approved by congress. The president submits his choices for judges to the judicial committee for approval.

The president can remove the AG and any federal judge at anytime and insert temporary people until congress/committes approves his replacements.

Remember the firestorm set by the libs when Bush removed all the liberal judges that Clinton installed? I sure do ...

So if you really think that the president does not have influence over the AG and every federal judge you are sorely mistaken.

Remember the left protect thier own where as on right, where we still have morals and will toss thier own in a heartbeat.

The schools push thier liberal agenda to our children. Green this and green that. My kids have come telling Bush is the worst president ever and them come back and tell me Obama is the greatest.

You are correct, the parents mold thier children but we have to keep a close watch on the schools because they have thier agenda and it is not a conservative one.

One last point, I urge everyone to keep an eye on Arizona. The president will put the case against that state's new law regarding asking for documentation for citizenship on the fast track. I also think Bush would have done the same.

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AKwyn replied on Thu, Apr 22 2010 10:30 AM

eyerant:
OK, I understand your points. Let me see if I can make you understand mine. I never said it would be an "automatic not guilty.

I didn't assume you said, I assumed you would think that because of the way you think the justice system works.

eyerant:

Here is how it works. In most, if not every state the AG is an elected official. It is a mixed bag for judges, some states elect them some are appointed.

In the federal system the president submits his choice for AG and then that choice is approved by congress. The president submits his choices for judges to the judicial committee for approval.

The president can remove the AG and any federal judge at anytime and insert temporary people until congress/committes approves his replacements.

So let me get this straight, you'll assume that Obama will remove the judges that do things such as "not permit them to re-activate the system." next thing you'll know it'll be the same thing over again and then people will not vote for him, combined with things such as the fact that he's having a hard time doing the things he promised and the fact that he's being corrupted by government officials. I mean seriously, have you met any guys that have not been corrupted by the government.

I'm not saying Obama is evil, that'd be stupid because if he truly is then his plan will backfire because no one will reelect him if he is evil. I also think it's stupid that you assume Obama has an influence, if he had an influence then we'd be seeing Obama's friends, guys with government connections, criminals and executives getting off with an "automatic not guilty verdict" because he can fire the judge, replace it with a judge that'll give not guilty and the guy will be set free.

eyerant:

The schools push thier liberal agenda to our children. Green this and green that. My kids have come telling Bush is the worst president ever and them come back and tell me Obama is the greatest.

You are correct, the parents mold thier children but we have to keep a close watch on the schools because they have thier agenda and it is not a conservative one.

How can the schools push the liberal agenda? I don't hear schools talking about how Bush is so great and I was in school, every class I've gone to I have never heard anything on how Bush/Obama is great. Maybe you think it's liberal where you live but it's not here, not every school is pushing their liberal agenda. In fact I have a challenge, list me 100 schools which are pushing the liberal agenda.

eyerant:
One last point, I urge everyone to keep an eye on Arizona. The president will put the case against that state's new law regarding asking for documentation for citizenship on the fast track. I also think Bush would have done the same.

Really... Give me an image of written, verbal proof and I might believe you. Note that if you do post the image, I will look at it to see if it's fake or not.

 

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rapid1 replied on Thu, Apr 22 2010 12:53 PM

Why do you guys do this copy paste multiple times? If you have nothing to say say nothing ! as half of this article is nothing but copy pastes singular or multiple over and over again it is truly annoying as well as a wast of space.

As far as all this goes you are on camera at least in every major city from the time you get up to the time you go to sleep every day. I was looking at Google Earth 3D (at my house as well as my mothers neighborhood. There is a 3D satellite camera on every house in either, and that is just what they let the public see through one provider. Imagine what it really is cam wise that I can see from my desktop.

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eyerant replied on Thu, Apr 22 2010 1:21 PM

It is this cr@ppy blog s/w ... if you take too long to finish typing it refreshes .. at least that is what I think is causing it ... I am now doing it in notepad and pasting here.

You can be video taped legally anywhere with consent except in your home or in places that might show you being naked, the doctors, hospitals, bathroom, changing rooms , etc

It only becomes illiegal when those images are made public with out your knowledge. Illegal activites excluded of course

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eyerant replied on Thu, Apr 22 2010 1:23 PM

oops I mistyped .. You can be video taped legally anywhere withOUT consent ... sorry about that , ... really bad typo ...

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eyerant replied on Fri, Apr 23 2010 3:09 PM

Slamdunk huh?

From the Philly inquirer

In a reply filed this week, Mandracchia called Robbins' contentions false and "a scandalous, malicious and abusive attack" on his client. He also said that Robbins had "no legitimate expectation of privacy" from the camera on his school-issued laptop because he had damaged two other school laptops and failed to pay the required $55 insurance fee.

Cafiero met earlier this week with the FBI, which is investigating if any criminal laws were broken"

So the FBI has yet to determine if any laws were broken?!

WTF!!!! You see it is already happening ...

They are stalling ... why? What has Eric Holder directed them to do ... I thought there was so much evidence it was a slam dunk ... unreal!

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eyerant replied on Tue, Apr 27 2010 10:34 AM

Wow how fast we all lose interest in probably the biggest abuse of civil liberties in decades! I remember when Bush ordered the wire tapping of of terrorist and folks screamed foul for years. This is exactly what the left wants ... they want it to fade away until nobody cares anymore.

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