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mojo8850 Posted: Sun, Oct 4 2009 7:00 PM

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Well in my previous post / threads I have stated I'm starting a new PC.. A new thread was created regarding Motherboards & Water Cooling.. Water Cooling is an ongoing topic want to study it in detail.

I require more details on the best water cooling parts.. Require assistance for that..

The Rig that I will be purchasing is as below :-

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Case: - ** THERMALTAKE CASE ARMOR+ VH600LBWS BLACK WINDOWS LIQUID COOLING **

Power Supply: - ** Enermax Revolution85+ ERV1250EGT | 1250W **
@Ebuyer.com / Quick Find Code #: - 160298

Motherboard: - ** Asus P6T7 WS Super Computer, Intel X58, S1366, PCI-E 2.0(x16), Triple DDR3 2000 (OC), SAS/ SATA RAID **

CPU: - ** Intel i7 975 Extreme, S1366, Bloomfield, 3.33 GHz, QPI 6.4GT/s, 8MB Cache, 25x Ratio, 130W **
@Ebuyer.com / Quick Find Code #: - 166534

Heat Sink: - ** Water Cooling Option Taken **

Water Cooling: - ** Built In Case – May Require Upgrade Or Modifications **

Memory: -

Hard Drive: -

CD / DVD /RW: - ** LG BH08LS20 8x Blu Ray BDRW Internal SATA Black Bare Drive – OEM **
@Ebuyer.com / Quick Find Code #: - 169565

LCD: -

Floppy: - ** Not Applicable ** USB Flash Drive To Act As Floppies **

Video Card: -

Sound Card:  - ** Built On Board **

Network Card: - ** Built On Board **

Modem: - ** Not Applicable **

For the one's are blank I really require assistance, As money is not the problem.. Please Help.. What you think so far?

 

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Power Supply: - ** Enermax Revolution85+ ERV1250EGT | 1250W **
@Ebuyer.com / Quick Find Code #: - 160298


 

Well the power supply is superb, but it is probably overkill, and you can save money with a lesser one...unless you really want to drop the buck$$$. And that brings-up the most important question: How much do you want to spend? Also, exactly what do you want to do with this system? Without knowing the answer to those questions it is kinda hard to recommend anything, mojo!

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Soupstyle replied on Sun, Oct 4 2009 10:30 PM

I'm pretty sure he wants a hardcore gaming rig.

From his motherboard/cpu topic, I got that impression, and that price wasn't a factor.

For the HDD, I'd have to think he'd want a SSD for fast load times, but I've never found loading times too much of a problem on a normal SATA 7200 RPM physical disc drive.

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For the HDD, I'd have to think he'd want a SSD for fast load times

And that introduces another question we need to ask: How much storage space is needed?

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Thanks for the reply..

Spending budget is around $5,000 GBP, I require a Powerfull Gaming Rig.. But I do know with the amount of power i will have other things can be used..
For prodectivity, Movie decoding, Creativity.. Etc...

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Well.. good question..

I require 1 SSD which will be for only booting. Meaning Operating System Will be on it ONLY.
The second one SSD / SATA II will hold the installed aplications..

Then I want a further 5-6 SSD / SATA II for a further extra space each represting..

1 Will hold backup data, saving work, 1 for music & video's, 1 for installed games only.. 1 for video productivity... etc.. yout get the idea..

But cant decide if SSD / SATA II, I belive SSD is alot faster...

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No video card yet?  If money is no issue, then you'd want to get a pair of Radeon 5870s running in Crossfire.  The only graphics set up faster than that is 3 Radeon 5870s running in Crossfire X.  But that would be ridiculously expensive.

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Like I said money is not the problem, I am still reseaching on what card to use..

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Well, the consensus is pretty clear that 3 x Radeon 5870s is the fastest setup possible for 3 PCI-e slots (I think that's what your board has, correct me if wrong).  If you really wanna spend the equivalent of $1140+ on graphics that is.  Nvidia offers nothing DX11, and 2x GTX 295s are slower than 3 5870s anyway.

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What about 2 GTX 295 & 2 5870?

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Ok another question is who is creating the ultimate Graphics Card's.. Ati or Nvidia ?

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You cannot mix different brand video cards, so no combining a 295 with a 5870, sorry mate.Crying

Right now ATi is considered to have the fastest solution available, and that is as many 5870s as you can fit in your motherboard (up to 4*).  Nvidia won't have their next cards out for a few months, presumably.

*Should be 4, but driver support for more than 3 isn't really there yet.  Big deal - it's still is faster than anything else.

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Supposedly, with the problems that TSMC and NVIDIA are having with their yields with the GTX 300 might be delayed longer than expected.

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I require 1 SSD which will be for only booting. Meaning Operating System Will be on it ONLY.

Corsair's P64 is one of the top SSD's available with a small storage space for your OS. They also have larger ones (P256 is the 256 GB verison).

If you read the hardware round-ups they can help you pick out items for your rig.

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I suppose 64gb or 128gb SSD drive for use with only operating systems might be enough..
The other question is looking at the benchmark for GTX 295 single & 5870 single, The GTX 295 is licking the 5870, If they go 3 way sli or quad crossfire im not sure with which is better because I cant seem to find benchmarks or video regarding gtx 295 3 way sli vs 5870 quad crossfire..

Also the Asus Mars seems to be fastest in the world.. I hear..

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The other question is looking at the benchmark for GTX 295 single & 5870 single, The GTX 295 is licking the 5870, If they go 3 way sli or quad crossfire im not sure with which is better because I cant seem to find benchmarks or video regarding gtx 295 3 way sli vs 5870 quad crossfire..

GTX 295 3 way SLI is not possible because it's already a dual GPU card.  So you can get 2 of them (4 GPUs total).  That's why they scale even worse in SLI, and that's why 2 Radeon 5870s beat 2 GTX 295s.  So 3 Radeon 5870s would stomp all SLI GTX 295s.

Here is 2 5870s beating 2 295s:

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/575117-arabhardware-hd5870-1gb-single-crossfire-vs.html

 

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I think you can only SLI 2 295 because they are dual GPU cards.

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The cosair SSD (128GB) one is a good one. As for which GFX card is better its a tossup. The Ati card is faster in a few of the applications but all the tests were done with Gen 1 drivers. I suspect that with the next generation of ATI drivers they should be a bit faster.  that and they have dx11.... though no game supports it at the moment so its really a non factor, imo....

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Hmm..

What are you sugesting is go with 3 x Ati Radeon 5870, Do I require a PhysX card as well.. If I do which you guys recommend..  Any others besides 9800 GT.
Do you also think there is a better SSD drive.. If so please state.

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Physx with an ATi main is only possible with a hack, and even then we don't know how long it'll last.  Honestly I'd forget about it as not even a dozen games support Physx I think?

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