Car head unit - sorting tracks by name???

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ivjRE Posted: Fri, Oct 2 2009 11:52 AM

Maybe not the best forum for this, but I couldn't think of a differnet place...

So in my car I have a head unit - Pioneer DEH-P4000UB which reads music from my USB flash drive.

In any given folders I would have tracks named like so:

Track 1

Track 2

Track X

Track 10

Track 11

...

 

I wanted these tracks to play in proper order, but the player plays them in this order:

Track 1

Track 10

Track 11

Track 2

Track X

 

At first I thought I could fix this by renaming tracks to start with "Track 01" "Track 02" etc..  But that didn't work - the player would still play them in same order as before (and after some thinking I understood why).

So, I went another step and renamed tracks like so: "Track A" "Track B" "Track C"

I figured this would work... But what do you know, the way it played these tracks was:

Track A

Track J - which would've been track 10

Track K - track 11

Track B - track 2

Track C 

etc...

 

Whaaat?  Any idea how I can get this player to play the tracks in proper order?

Thanks!

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It is most likely putting them in order based on the ID3 tags.

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ivjRE replied on Fri, Oct 2 2009 3:19 PM

What's an ID3 tag and how do I change it?

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An ID3 tag is sort of like the info of a song. Most media players let you edit them, so open up your files on your PC with whatever player you use and right click your songs, you should be able to find an edit ID3 tag option.

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3vi1 replied on Sat, Oct 3 2009 9:09 AM

OMG that avatar's horrible.

I love it.

People read the stupidest things.  Like this sig, for instance.

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ivjRE replied on Sat, Oct 3 2009 9:02 PM

I checked them in Winamp and it has ID3v1 and ID3v2 tabs where all Titles are the same (no numbering) and ID3v2 has track #s, but they're in proper order.

 

This suggest that this is not how my deck reads them.  Any ideas?

 

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ivjRE replied on Tue, Oct 6 2009 8:21 PM

This is really strange...

This is what tags I have set on the 2nd song from the CD:

Everything looks proper, but this plays as 4th song on the CD... And I know it's not sorting by title (previous 3 songs start with g,s and g).  

How can this possibly be?

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Possibly could it be playing via the artist (or his last name)? It could be playing in order of the name of the file, not sure. Maybe posting or sending (PM) some pictures from the other tracks could shed some light.

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ivjRE replied on Wed, Oct 7 2009 5:48 PM

For all other songs everything is the same except track #, title, and filename.  Filenames correspond to track titles (ie E-Myth A = track 1, E-Myth B = track 2)

 

I'm completely confused by this I have no idea where the head unit could be getting it's play order from...

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I have a feeling it is based on track number then, try relabeling the track numbers to letters or maybe use leading zeros?

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ivjRE replied on Wed, Oct 7 2009 6:20 PM

The only conclusion I'm making is that the stupid deck takes song #s and sorts them as text rather than numbers (so it goes 1, 10, 11, 2, 3, etc).

So I renamed song #s from digits to A B C etc, which auto-set them for ID3v2, but completely erased them for ID3v1 (I guess only numbers allowed).  Tried playing it - SAME THING.  

How can this be?  Does ID3v1 get numbered automatically or something, and that numbering ets sorted improperly?  This is bizzare and whoever wrote the software for Pioneer needs to be punched.

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I will try looking for the manual for this model and see if I find anything.

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ivjRE replied on Wed, Oct 7 2009 6:30 PM

Oh and leading 0s for IDv1 isn't allowed - 01 turns into 1...

Still, with IDv1 erased, and IDv2 and the normal file info having tracks labeled as letters, as well as the file names - how can it possibly sort tracks as 1, 2, 10, 11, 3, 4, etc...

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