Looking for a new PC, recommendations needed

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Namek Posted: Wed, Dec 3 2008 10:15 AM

Hey.

I’m looking to purchase a new pc this week. I have to buy it this week.

I’m a little pressed for time so I need some advice.

I bought my current pc in January of 2005 and I kind of got screwed. So I need some help to make sure my new pc will be a far better deal than the last one. 

Feel free to make any kind of suggestions and tell me your opinions. Any help is appreciated.

Anyway these are the PCs I’m looking into:

This is the one I want to get 

iPentium Q6600 CORE 2 QUAD 2.4G 8M 1066
MB: ASUS P5QL PRO LGA775 1600
4 GB RAM DDR2 800MHz
ASUS GeForce9800GT 1Gb DD3 256bit
HDD 500GB SATA II 7200rpm

Other options include

1.
Core2Duo E6850 3.0 Ghz 2x2 Mb 800Mhz
MB: MSI Intel P35 NEO ICH9
4Gb RAM DDR2 800MHz
HDD 320Gb SATA II WD 7200
MSI NX8600GT T2D256E

2.
Athlon AM2 6000 3Ghz DualCore 2x1 cache 800MHz
MB: MSI K9N SLI-F V2 NVIDIA nForce 570 sli MCP
HDD 500 Gb SATA II 7200
4GB RAM DDR2 800MHz
2 x MSI NX8600GT-T2D256E

3.
Intel Core Quad Q6600 2.4G
82031 (?)
4Gb RAM DDR2 800MHz
HDD 500GB SATA II 7200
NVIDIA EN 9600/GT -512M
Intel P43 Chipset

4.
MB: ABIT IP35 - P
RAM: 4GB DDR II / 800MHZ
HDD: SEAGATE 320GB SATA II / 16MB cache
VGA: 9500 GT / 1GB / DVI / HDTV
CASE: 450W SH09A
CPU: INTEL CORE 2 DUO E7300

5.
HP dc5700 MT Intel® Pentium® D 945; 3,40 GHz; 512 MB RAM; 80 GB SATA 3,0 Gb/s 7200 rpm HDD; keyboard, mouse; Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 300

6.
HP dc5700 MT PD-945 80G 1.0G 4 PC Intel Pentium D-945, 80GB HDD 7200rpm SATA, No Floppy, DVD-ROM, 1.0GB PC5300 DDR2 (dual channel)

7.
HP
CPU: Intel Pentium E2160 Dual Core 1.8GHz/1MB/
MB: Intel GigaByte X48T-DQ6, DDR3/1600
RAM: 2GB DDR3/1333
HDD: 250GB, SATA2 7200rpm
VGA: PCI-E nx9600GT 1GB DDR3

8.
Intel® P965 + ICH8 chipset, 1066 MHz FSB
Core 2 Duo 3,0GHz 6MB
4GB RAM DDR2
HDD 320GBSATA II
VGA: GeForce 8400GS 512MB


Thank in advance 

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rapid1 replied on Wed, Dec 3 2008 12:14 PM

If your old PC still works I would give it a few weeks. Seriously the I7 cpu's just came out and AMD is releasing new cpu's on the retail market as well. So if you buy a PC now look to be outdated b4 you place the order. I would wait until after the next big electronics conferrence which is in January or at least until after christmas sales to get burned the least. If you insist on being burned though go ahead. I'd say get either a DDR3 system or the one with the best graphics setup to reduce your burns a little. Or if you wanna truely get a deal and learn a few things get a book about building a PC or find the information online and build it. You will save money and learn to support it yourself. The number 1  out of the choices you have listed looks the best but they are all  farther back than I would want. If you on the other hand just like giving away money hit me up I'll get right back to you.

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Namek replied on Wed, Dec 3 2008 1:20 PM

Thing is If I don't buy it next week a coupon for 250 euro goes down the drain.

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The PC you chose looks like the best all-round system of all the options.

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Out of the computers listed you have picked the fastest one by far.

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Namek replied on Thu, Dec 4 2008 7:00 AM

Thanks guys. 

I have one question. If I get a E8500 Core 2 Duo, will it be futureproof? 

Because I've read that Core Duo are better for gaming, but I've also read that many new games may utilize the Core Quads in the future. 

So is it smarter to get a Duo or Quad?

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Core2duos are better for older and some current games, but going into the future more and more game will run better on quad cores.

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Namek replied on Thu, Dec 4 2008 2:30 PM

A friend recommended this PC, what do you guys think:

GeForce 9800GTX+, 512MB DDR3 256 bit,
HDD 500GB Seagate 7200rpm 32MB SATA-II
P5Q, LGA775, Intel P45
Corsair 4GB 800MHz TWIN2X4096-6400C5 20 DDR2
CM eXtreme Power 460W (RS-460-PCAPA3-EU)
iPentium E8400 CORE 2 DUO 3.0G 6MB 1333
   

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I don't know why that CPU is listed as "iPentium E8400", but the E8400 is a very fast dual-core CPU - so it's good.  Compared to the Quad-Core Q6600 CPU in your first choice in your first post, it's debatable which is better.  For anything optimized for only one or two cores, the E8400 will win everytime.  But for the few things optimized for quad-cores, the Q6600 will do better.  It's more "future-proof" and not too much slower than the E8400 in current things... so I say that's your best bet CPU-wise (the Q6600 that is).

But, the GPU (Graphics Card) in your friend's recommendation is a little faster, no doubt about it.  The 9800GTX+ will outperform the 9800GT in every single possible benchmark (because it's basically a higher clocked version of the same card).

Have no doubt about it: in current games your "friend's recommendation" will perform better virtually every time.  But in multi-tasking, your first choice will be faster because it is Quad Core.  And in future games, it may be faster.  We haven't seen hardly any game take advantage of quad-core yet, and the second system has a faster card (9800 GTX+) that will help it a bit even in future quad-core optimized games.

Basically you could get either.  If you plan to buy another computer within 2.5 years, get the second.  Otherwise go for the Quad-Core.  You can always upgrade the GPU later anyway.  I always stay up to date with Graphics Card knowledge so ask us here at HH anytime you want to upgrade your GPU in the future and we'll tell you what's best.

These are my thoughts, of course.  Others will hopefully weigh in too.

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Namek replied on Fri, Dec 5 2008 2:30 AM

Thanks for the advice man.

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