Jobs Says There's No Job For Flash On the iPhone

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I don't know which I dread accidentally clicking on more: A PDF link (Adobe) or a Quicktime video (Apple). But unless you live under a rock, you're looking at Flash video everyday on the Internet. Steve Jobs doesn't seem to be; he's publicly  announced that Flash is unsuitable for the iPhone in any of its current iterations. Adobe countered that if your smartphone doesn't play Flash video, it's a pretty dumb smartphone.

Rather than support Flash, Apple requires that video be delivered in a particular file format. As a result, even though Google's YouTube has agreed to go along with Apple, only a fraction of Web video is playable on the iPhone. Flash is used to display the majority of online video, including that on YouTube.

Jobs' remarks were not well received by Adobe. Indeed, Ryan Stewart, the chief spokesman for Adobe's Internet applications, questioned in his blog on ZDNet whether the iPhone was ready for the Web without Flash.

"I'd even go as far as to say that the Web experience isn't complete on the iPhone until some kind of Flash support is added," Stewart said.

Stewart pointed out how Nokia and Sony have adopted Flash in mobile devices. "We've got a lot of partners, 450 million Flash-enabled devices out there and we're looking at 1 billion devices with Flash by 2010."



Let's make some popcorn, watch them yell at each other some more, and wait for Microsoft Silverlight to be released and drive them both up the wall. 



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lmao! I'm with you on that last sentence!

In this particular fight, I'd have to side with adobe on this one, though. It's pretty moronic of Apple to not support flash, though it really comes as no surprise.

I also highly doubt Apple will ever let Silverlight work on its lousy phone, seeing as its Microsoft software.

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Kamrooz replied on Thu, Mar 6 2008 9:56 AM

 

Adobe countered that if your smartphone doesn't play Flash video, it's a pretty dumb smartphone.

That has to be the best come back ever...rofl...I do agree, flash is everywhere...and the fact that the Iphone can't play flash based files is a bit discerning.

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 Flash is such a huge part of the internet.  Especially because of youtube.  The iPhones are very crippled by not having it.  Get crackin, Apple!

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ice91785 replied on Thu, Mar 6 2008 11:24 AM
Why wouldn't they want to support flash? Does it somehow directly compete with some Apple software or something -- or is Jobs just being Jobs....

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Kamrooz replied on Thu, Mar 6 2008 12:10 PM

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Why wouldn't they want to support flash? Does it somehow directly compete with some Apple software or something -- or is Jobs just being Jobs....
 

I smell iFlash is on the horizon...Stick out tongue 

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frg1 replied on Sat, Mar 8 2008 7:42 PM

 that is crazy hopefully somebody can make a program that will allow you to use flash on a iphone

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ice_73 replied on Sat, Mar 8 2008 11:02 PM

no suprise here if any one used an iphone when it came out half the web videos were the x box.  

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methious replied on Sat, Mar 8 2008 11:29 PM

 I've had my hands on an Iphone, surfing via WIFI was painfully slow, the web on that sized screen even worse, IMHO the only thing the IPhone people are good at is advertising.  They sell enough of that over priced under powered phone.

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Kamrooz replied on Sun, Mar 9 2008 8:45 AM

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 I've had my hands on an Iphone, surfing via WIFI was painfully slow, the web on that sized screen even worse, IMHO the only thing the IPhone people are good at is advertising.  They sell enough of that over priced under powered phone.

 

 I have yet to use a Iphone, but that's good to know. My brother has been dying to get his hands on one since he's a apple fanatic...Such a waste imo.

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methious replied on Sun, Mar 9 2008 11:37 AM

 They do pictures and music good, but so does my $45 knock off ipod clone.  Internet generally you have to scroll the screen all over to see any thing of readable size.  After you wait on the painfully slow surfing.  If your going to invest in that expensive a device I'd go smart phone with Windows interface, those are some amazing devices.  As far as web capibilities, my old HP Jornada surfs faster WIFI than the Iphone and it's 5 years old.

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frg1 replied on Sun, Mar 9 2008 12:22 PM

 one good thing abouthose windows phones is you can use flash

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replied on Mon, Mar 10 2008 7:58 AM
Well I agree with Adobe here. Which is unusual. Its been a long time and they still dont have flash for 64 bit IE browser. So I am kinda annoyed by them at the moment.
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replied on Mon, Mar 10 2008 8:07 AM
oh yeh and Silverlight actually looks promising. One thing I like about Microsoft is they do try to stay up to date.
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frg1 replied on Mon, Mar 10 2008 12:20 PM

silverlight looks very promising hopefully it can live up to the hype 

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