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Dev Posted: Wed, Jun 15 2005 1:03 PM

I think it might actually come true this time. Has anyone else seen these reports, I know your going to say old new but check the computer news sites again. Apparently Jobs announced it. Apple news
This raises my question I posted a while back. Are Macs becoming PCs. Before you shout at me. Think about it. Slowly Apple is becoming less of a platform. What next Windows on Apple? ATI make graphics cards for Apple high end hardware and now Intel CPUs. The distinction between Mac and PC isn't as clear.

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Drago replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 3:03 PM
Lol Apple has been using the Pentium 4 in their computers since the G4

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They have? are you sure, I am pretty sure they used IBM

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Elsparrow replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 4:21 PM
They did use IBM. I put this up about a month ago when it was rumours and everyone laughed at me

Why not go for an AMD chip as everyone knows that AMD's architecture currently is ahead of Intels. Lets hope Intel improves for Apple's sake

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Ne0rC replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 5:54 PM
quote:

Originally posted by: Version1
if they use pc parts then whats so special about the mac?



Would they be using a CPU made for their instruction sets? I don't think they'd be using a x86 CPU.

Would be designed just for the stuff they need to do.

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Elsparrow replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 5:55 PM
No they are switching to x86 Intel CPU's

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Dev replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 6:48 PM

Good question Version1, if longhorn holds up to it's hype we may well see Apple just blend into PCs and they could well just be like Microsoft making operating systems and hardware for PCs. It may be a long shot in theory but really, if you laughed at Elsparrow last time he posted the suggestion (only two weeks ago)of the rumour and now it's been announced as true, what else can change in the next two years? It doesn't - to me at least seem so far fetched.

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Ne0rC replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 8:40 PM
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No they are switching to x86 Intel CPU's



Wouldn't that mean they would have to re-write their OS?

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Bowsky replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 11:30 PM
Apple has always had an x86 version of OSX ever since the early days of the opperating system. The real trouble is going to be with the applications that were written to take advantage of the PPC will need rewritten or at least revised to work with the Pentium Macs.
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Look at the bright side, that means that we can say PC Processors where always better than those overpriced IBM ones

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tk623 replied on Wed, Jun 29 2005 2:33 PM
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Elsparrow replied on Wed, Jun 29 2005 2:39 PM
Also despite using the x86 architecture cpu's Apple intend to still produce software and hardware that can't be used on other pc's e.g not allowing anything of theirs to be used under Windows.

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x7z replied on Wed, Jun 29 2005 4:23 PM
One of my friends still thinks that MACs are superior, which I think is funny because XP is so much better (from the gaming side of me anyways). I use this little event as evidence for Windows' Superiority. =)
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tk623 replied on Wed, Jun 29 2005 4:40 PM
I don't know if you could say that WIN XP is better than MAC OSX. XP is better for gaming, but MACs are not ment for gaming - they are ment for media creation.

What you can say from this is that perhaps x86 based processors are better than PPC based processors.
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In my opinion you can't really compare the two completely, as you can't run them on the same hardware. You would then have to just use comparably priced hardware, and then you could just say that apple overprices their hardware, etc.

It does seem wierd to me how they slowly move away from uniqueness, such as going to intel's chips (obviously the IBM ones weren't made by them, but they were _different_ at least), and earlier switching to the unix core.
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My theory is that this is mostly about ibm's inability to get a laptop acceptable g5 within what, 2 years, or the g5 launch?

Apple has spent lots of time and pr dissing intel over the years so why didn't they go with AMD? AMD is currently the clear tech leader in both servers and in the desktop arenas...but it's the laptops where even the turion still isn't quite up the par with the pentium m chip lines.

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Elsparrow replied on Sat, Jul 30 2005 10:09 AM
As Apple will be using Intel chips on the desktops does that mean Apple can name their desktop line "iCrap"?

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lol Elsparrow... Intel aren't that crap are they?
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Elsparrow replied on Fri, Sep 9 2005 10:04 AM
Apple iHot featuring Prescott Cores!

And the typical phrase after buying an Apple for gaming: iScrewedUp

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Yeh i dont think they are really designed for gaming
I heard they are used for more media things like graphical editing and stuff like that.
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Dev Posted: Wed, Jun 15 2005 1:03 PM

I think it might actually come true this time. Has anyone else seen these reports, I know your going to say old new but check the computer news sites again. Apparently Jobs announced it. Apple news
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Drago replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 3:03 PM
Lol Apple has been using the Pentium 4 in their computers since the G4

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Elsparrow replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 4:21 PM
They did use IBM. I put this up about a month ago when it was rumours and everyone laughed at me

Why not go for an AMD chip as everyone knows that AMD's architecture currently is ahead of Intels. Lets hope Intel improves for Apple's sake

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Ne0rC replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 5:54 PM
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Elsparrow replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 5:55 PM
No they are switching to x86 Intel CPU's

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Dev replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 6:48 PM

Good question Version1, if longhorn holds up to it's hype we may well see Apple just blend into PCs and they could well just be like Microsoft making operating systems and hardware for PCs. It may be a long shot in theory but really, if you laughed at Elsparrow last time he posted the suggestion (only two weeks ago)of the rumour and now it's been announced as true, what else can change in the next two years? It doesn't - to me at least seem so far fetched.

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Ne0rC replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 8:40 PM
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Wouldn't that mean they would have to re-write their OS?

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Bowsky replied on Wed, Jun 15 2005 11:30 PM
Apple has always had an x86 version of OSX ever since the early days of the opperating system. The real trouble is going to be with the applications that were written to take advantage of the PPC will need rewritten or at least revised to work with the Pentium Macs.
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tk623 replied on Wed, Jun 29 2005 2:33 PM
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Elsparrow replied on Wed, Jun 29 2005 2:39 PM
Also despite using the x86 architecture cpu's Apple intend to still produce software and hardware that can't be used on other pc's e.g not allowing anything of theirs to be used under Windows.

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x7z replied on Wed, Jun 29 2005 4:23 PM
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tk623 replied on Wed, Jun 29 2005 4:40 PM
I don't know if you could say that WIN XP is better than MAC OSX. XP is better for gaming, but MACs are not ment for gaming - they are ment for media creation.

What you can say from this is that perhaps x86 based processors are better than PPC based processors.
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In my opinion you can't really compare the two completely, as you can't run them on the same hardware. You would then have to just use comparably priced hardware, and then you could just say that apple overprices their hardware, etc.

It does seem wierd to me how they slowly move away from uniqueness, such as going to intel's chips (obviously the IBM ones weren't made by them, but they were _different_ at least), and earlier switching to the unix core.
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My theory is that this is mostly about ibm's inability to get a laptop acceptable g5 within what, 2 years, or the g5 launch?

Apple has spent lots of time and pr dissing intel over the years so why didn't they go with AMD? AMD is currently the clear tech leader in both servers and in the desktop arenas...but it's the laptops where even the turion still isn't quite up the par with the pentium m chip lines.

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Elsparrow replied on Sat, Jul 30 2005 10:09 AM
As Apple will be using Intel chips on the desktops does that mean Apple can name their desktop line "iCrap"?

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lol Elsparrow... Intel aren't that crap are they?
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But thats prety dam funny

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Elsparrow replied on Fri, Sep 9 2005 10:04 AM
Apple iHot featuring Prescott Cores!

And the typical phrase after buying an Apple for gaming: iScrewedUp

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Yeh i dont think they are really designed for gaming
I heard they are used for more media things like graphical editing and stuff like that.
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