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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://hothardware.com/cs/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>3D Graphics Cards and Video</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/8.aspx</link><description>NVIDIA, ATI, Matrox, PowerVR, even 3DfX! Graphics chips and the boards that they are built on.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Re: AMD Launches ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/304234.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:39:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:304234</guid><dc:creator>THEODOROS321</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/304234.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=304234</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hi there,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;I have a 17 inch LCD monitor &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;1280*1024 32bit&lt;/b&gt;, Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 3.262GHz 466FSB ORTHOS,PRIME,OCCT,SANDRA,AND OTHER FULLY STABLE (1.86GHz Default) with Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 Motherboard (Rev. X.X WITH F7 BIOS) with 2GB Kingston Hyper-X 800MHz Memory modules in Dual Channel Mode (128bit - 64bit*2).&lt;b&gt;I&amp;#39;m using ATI GFX-Cards FOREVER &lt;/b&gt;and the reason is because i don&amp;#39;t know what the Bench sites are saying or doing but every time that i was trust any of the benchmarks i was pissed off because is like they are saying lies to me at least.&lt;b&gt;Finally i want to make something about the ATI HD3870 clear and not for the ATI HD3870 X2 is that in any game i&amp;#39;m playing the frames are about 60F.P.S.(Frames Per Second) and up, not at least in any time of the game drops below of that at ALL FULL GRAPHICS and all Details Cranked Up - AA16X,HDR and so on...... and something else those 55nm &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;babes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt; and not &lt;/b&gt;65nm &lt;b&gt;are so easy overclockable ~1000MHz+++ core (stock cooling- within VGA BIOS modifications).&lt;span id="EC_bodyfont" style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: @ phresh -</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292584.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:43:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292584</guid><dc:creator>recoveringknowitall</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292584.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292584</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;We don&amp;#39;t flame here, find another forum to disrespect.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: @ phresh -</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292582.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:17:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292582</guid><dc:creator>phresh</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292582.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292582</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;And I think you lack any significant point and suck at spelling. Let&amp;#39;s fight about it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;The fact remains that no one here has properly addressed the issues I brought up. Pure fail. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: @ phresh -</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292581.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:08:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292581</guid><dc:creator>recoveringknowitall</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292581.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292581</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;IMO you are misinformed and childish. I hope that if you continue to post here that you will step up your maturity and present your oppinion without disrespecting the people that run this site.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: @ phresh -</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292580.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:50:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292580</guid><dc:creator>phresh</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292580.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292580</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://hothardware.com/cs/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;recoveringknowitall:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To phresh: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What makes you an authority? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Never claimed to be an authority. I&amp;#39;m just a dude that thinks critically and enjoys flaming forums.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://hothardware.com/cs/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;recoveringknowitall:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do you have any legitamate credentials? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I can spell legitimate, does that count?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://hothardware.com/cs/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;recoveringknowitall:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You come off like you know a page more than the book, have you ever built a system... if so, how many? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;No, I just run eMachines. lol. Really though, approaching 50 or so over the past decade.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://hothardware.com/cs/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;recoveringknowitall:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you have any expirience bench testing high end machines comparatively or running a tech website? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bench testing yes, did a lot getting my q6600 to 3.4 stable on air without too many volts. Tech website, nope.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://hothardware.com/cs/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;recoveringknowitall:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you consider your critiques constructive criticism? If not then what is your agenda? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yes and I also enjoy being condescending, bite me.&amp;nbsp; My agenda is simply to point out things that don&amp;#39;t make sense and have a bit of fun along the way.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sincerely,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-phresh&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: @ phresh -</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292570.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:19:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292570</guid><dc:creator>recoveringknowitall</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292570.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292570</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://hothardware.com/cs/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;phresh:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;You guys are awesome at missing the mark.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To phresh: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What makes you an authority? Do you have any legitimate credentials?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You come off like you know a page more than the book, have you ever built a system... if so, how many?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you have any expirience bench testing high end machines comparatively or running a tech website?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you consider your critiques constructive criticism? If not then what is your agenda?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To the admins: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve gathered that you guys have a pretty &amp;quot;thick skin&amp;quot; for the most part, but I can&amp;#39;t help feeling as though phresh is willfully condescending and also can&amp;#39;t help feeling a bit aggitated by it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To the HH forum community:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You guys may feel like I&amp;#39;m overreacting and wasting my time by questioning this individual, but I respect HotHardware and trust their reviews implicitly!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW: If you think my reaction was spawned by just 1 post, read his other 2!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: @ phresh -</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292569.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:52:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292569</guid><dc:creator>phresh</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292569.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292569</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://hothardware.com/cs/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Davo:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The subtle variances between motherboard chipsets when you&amp;#39;re testing at high res, high AA settings and high image quality settings, are totally meaningless.  The tests are GPU bound, no if, ands or buts about it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Given that, why don&amp;#39;t we test them on completely different boards for the *** of it then! It&amp;#39;ll be fun! We&amp;#39;ll have to reload Windows and everything!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You guys are awesome at missing the mark.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: AMD Launches ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292440.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:55:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292440</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292440.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292440</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;EVGA boards seem fairly descent to me if your going for an nvidia chipset. I think DFI lan party series is good too. I used my DFI lan party for like 4 years and the only reason It stoped working is I put on an after market cooler on the northbridge chip and accidently cracked it. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: AMD Launches ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292431.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:06:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292431</guid><dc:creator>jtm55</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292431.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292431</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hi All,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That means I&amp;#39;d have to go with a Nvidia Motherboard. I&amp;#39;ve no experience with them. I&amp;#39;ve always used Intel Motherboards. I&amp;#39;d like to hear how you Guys with Nvidia boards feel about them, are they stable? Every Intel Motherboard I&amp;#39;ve owned has been Rock Solid.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: AMD Launches ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292428.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:25:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292428</guid><dc:creator>recoveringknowitall</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292428.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292428</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Getting another Ultra is a viable option, but I would venture that dual 3870 X2&amp;#39;s in xfire would outperform their sli counterparts... couple that with the fact that I prefer Intel chipsets and it makes sense for me personally.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: AMD Launches ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292426.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:08:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292426</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292426.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292426</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;If you already have a GTX is probably isnt worth it.&amp;nbsp; Unless&amp;nbsp;you just want to get away from Nvidia for some reason. You could add another gtx for sli.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: AMD Launches ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292407.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:05:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292407</guid><dc:creator>jtm55</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292407.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292407</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi All,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that&amp;#39;ll be the card I&amp;#39;m getting for my build. I&amp;#39;m not sure if I&amp;#39;ll go the Crossfire route or not. I will wait &amp;amp; see how two of the cards Scale before making that decision.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: AMD Launches ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292405.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:27:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292405</guid><dc:creator>recoveringknowitall</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292405.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292405</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://hothardware.com/cs/Themes/hawaii/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;FlyinBrian:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; if HiS comes out with an overclocked edition of the X2 i will probably get that&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would imagine that OC&amp;#39;ed boards will start showing up very soon from most partners.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: AMD Launches ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292395.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:14:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292395</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292395.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292395</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I have thought about that too.. but I havent decided. The high memory bandwith of the ddr 4 combined with overclock seems that the crossfire combo would be a high performer especially if the numbers HH included from their crossfire was stock reference board. I could see the overclocked versions really giving insane performance. Then again if HiS comes out with an overclocked edition of the X2 i will probably get that no questions asked&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: AMD Launches ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2</title><link>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292393.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:44:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">ba4e517a-01ef-48a6-b096-821b95afe388:292393</guid><dc:creator>recoveringknowitall</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/thread/292393.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://hothardware.com/cs/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=292393</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m sure it would be plenty powerful, but why not get 1 3870 X2 and perhaps another 1 at a later date for crossfire... ahh to have the power of 4 GPUs under the hood!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is very likely the route I&amp;#39;ll be going this year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>