Cell Phones and Multi-Function Devices

RE: Intel Expects Moorestown To Compete In Smartphone Space Early Next Year

Chainzsaw — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:02:17 GMT

I should have been a bit more clear on what I was trying to convey. I meant in the sense of most technology being able to do the same thing much in the way for example Boing and Airbus compete. They offer different airplanes, but in the end they both get you where you need to go :)

RE: Intel Expects Moorestown To Compete In Smartphone Space Early Next Year

bob_on_the_cob — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:40:14 GMT

ARM is not X86 so I don't think it's going to the desktop any time soon. Cellphone and netbook CPUs are starting to blur a bit. I have seen that 1GHz SnapDragon in a few tables and phones.

RE: Intel Expects Moorestown To Compete In Smartphone Space Early Next Year

AKwyn — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 06:57:46 GMT

Chainzsaw:

True.

That would be quite neat to see ARM in the desktop scene. Would be interesting to have more choices for processors as well.

At the rate technology is going, i'm pretty sure we will get to a point where most technology will pretty much be able to do the same thing (what i mean is that for example, Intel, AMD, ARM, Texas Instruments, will have such powerful chips that no matter what you get it will do well). My point being is that having all these devices similar in terms of performance/power you can have a good choice of what you want to get, and not have to be locked into one certain provider.

I don't know how it'd work in the desktop market and how powerful it would be comparing it to AMD and Intel. While I do appriciate what ARM processors are doing (we shouldn't forget the fact that Intel used to manufacture ARM processors itself.) I just don't see it being competitive in a desktop market but I will be interested to see what Intel's new mobile processors can do once they reach the tablets.

RE: Intel Expects Moorestown To Compete In Smartphone Space Early Next Year

3vi1 — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:40:06 GMT

>> i'm pretty sure we will get to a point where most technology will pretty much be able to do the same thing

Only if the patent system gets some much-needed reform. :) I certainly hope so though.

RE: Intel Expects Moorestown To Compete In Smartphone Space Early Next Year

Chainzsaw — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:40:28 GMT

True.

That would be quite neat to see ARM in the desktop scene. Would be interesting to have more choices for processors as well.

At the rate technology is going, i'm pretty sure we will get to a point where most technology will pretty much be able to do the same thing (what i mean is that for example, Intel, AMD, ARM, Texas Instruments, will have such powerful chips that no matter what you get it will do well). My point being is that having all these devices similar in terms of performance/power you can have a good choice of what you want to get, and not have to be locked into one certain provider.

RE: Intel Expects Moorestown To Compete In Smartphone Space Early Next Year

3vi1 — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:17:10 GMT

Oh, they've been trying. Atom itself was an attempt.... but it lost to the ARM Cortex across the board on size, power, performance... (a 1Ghz Cortex beats a 1.6Ghz Atom). It will be interesting to see if Intel brings some real competition this time.

I rather like that ARM has forced people to shed their single-processor-architecture notions though, and hope they continue to have a large marketshare (and maybe move into the desktop space). Competition creates incentive for innovation.

RE: Intel Expects Moorestown To Compete In Smartphone Space Early Next Year

Chainzsaw — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:23:06 GMT

With Intel's manufacturing prowess, i'm surprised they didn't make a high performance, low power, smartphone processor much, much sooner.

It seems like they are only jumping on the bandwagon after seeing what everyone else can do.

Intel Expects Moorestown To Compete In Smartphone Space Early Next Year

News — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:38:53 GMT

NVIDIA has Tegra, ARM has the Cortex line, and Qualcomm has theSnapdragon family. These are the major players in the smartphone CPU warright now, and there seems to be plenty of options to go around. But ofcourse, as a microprocessor company, Intel isn't going to just sitaround on the sidelines while everyone else wins business in a growingcategory. The Atom platform is being tweaked and expanded to includeMoorestown, which is a new low-drain arm of Atom that will work nicelyin MIDs, smartphones and even tablet PCs.

But it's going to be quite some time before Intel's ready to compete inthe space. During the Computex show this week, the company stated thatthey wouldn't be ready to ship a Moorestown-based smartphone beforeearly 2011, with tablets and slates to get the platform "first." Wearen't too surprised at the notion; shipping first in a tablet, whichhas less strict power and heat requirements due to the larger size,makes sense, and it will give Intel time to work out the problems withthermals.

But what will the smartphone landscape look like in 7-8 months? AnotherCPU will enter the fold (the A4 CPU expected in Apple's next generationiPhone), and we're certain that Qualcomm's dual-core 1.2GHz chip will betoasting benchmarks everywhere. Does the world really have room foranother smartphone chip? According to Intel, yes. Moorestown is shapingup to be the most powerful smartphone platform yet, with the ability totruly multi-task, play back 1080p video and even handle games like Worldof Warcraft right on your phone. Of course, we will have to wait until aproduct ships before blows are thrown, but next year's smartphone warsare bound to be exciting. We're guessing a MeeGo phone (or a Moblinphone) will be first to test Moorestown, but who knows--maybe Androidwill make a surprise appearance.