Re: NVIDIA Gets Aggressive, Dismisses CPU-GPU Fusion

RyuGTX — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:38:45 GMT

I like what I read. I think it is good to take an approach like that in business. You can't let people knock you around in business. I just hope that they don't talk like this and not take precautions. Just because you got a few good points doesn't mean you are safe. If possible, Nvidia might need to innovate some more. Like figure out a new architecture or something. As long as they don't sit still, they should be fine. After reading a Forbes article about him and Nvidia, I think he should be fine. I like his attitude and how he approaches things.

Re: NVIDIA Gets Aggressive, Dismisses CPU-GPU Fusion

Grahf — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:06:57 GMT

Jen-Sun Huang, peace be upon him, is always right.

Re: NVIDIA Gets Aggressive, Dismisses CPU-GPU Fusion

higgamo — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:58:26 GMT

hmm this is great always need a little competition to help with innovation. Hope to see great thing from nvidia, with hybrid sli and after on.

Re: NVIDIA Gets Aggressive, Dismisses CPU-GPU Fusion

ice91785 — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:49:20 GMT

Agression that I am certainly not very used to from nVidia - I am guessing they are just throwing temper-tantroms due to the whole "SLI" and not sharing code thing goin on..... well I guess though it takes away from professionalism it makes for a fun read :)

Re: NVIDIA Gets Aggressive, Dismisses CPU-GPU Fusion

Super Dave — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:19:32 GMT

News:
The always outspoken Jen-Sun really went on the offensive and essentially dismissed CPU-GPU fusion and Intel's upcoming discreet graphics product (codenamed Larrabee).

Mr. Jen-Sun needs to meet Mr. Phil Hester.

RE: NVIDIA Gets Aggressive, Dismisses CPU-GPU Fusion

kid007 — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:49:53 GMT

50/50 would be nice, I know they are trying in the M-GPU's for laptops and they are been very sucessful in increasing the battery life w/out hurting the perfomance.

NVIDIA Gets Aggressive, Dismisses CPU-GPU Fusion

News — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:07:32 GMT

NVIDIA held a Financial Analyst Day yesterday, where representatives spoke about the company's strengths, market share, technology, and direction. There was a lot of discussion regarding current products and competition, which seemed to get NVIDIA's CEO Jen-Sun Huang fired up in a way that's not often seen publicly.

The always outspoken Jen-Sun really went on the offensive and essentially dismissed CPU-GPU fusion and Intel's upcoming discreet graphics product (codenamed Larrabee). He also downplayed the erosion of NVIDIA's market share in the mobile segments and promoted the APX 2500 "system on a chip", CUDA, and other NVIDIA initiatives. Jen-Sun even went so far as to say NVIDIA plans to "open a can of whoop ass" on Intel. Them's fightin' words.

A CEO vehemently defending the company he helped found is nothing new, but the manner in which Jen-Sun attacked upcoming competitive offerings is clearly a sign of things to come. Ever since AMD's acquisition of ATI and news of Intel's Larrabee hit, many began to wonder what these developments would mean to NVIDIA in the long run. If AMD and Intel both had strong graphics divisions, both companies would be able to offer complete top-to-bottom platforms to consumers and more importantly OEMs (processor, chipset, graphics). In addition, if AMD and Intel both offered CPUs with integrated graphics processors - i.e. Fusion and Nehalem - what would that do to NVIDIA's motherboard IGP business? Many analysts are predicting doom and gloom for NVIDIA, since the company doesn't have a desktop CPU and won't be able to compete with a total platform.

Jen Sun, it seems, isn't worried in the least, however. His thoughts on CPU-GPU fusion were that it won't be any different than current attached IGPs and that all Intel and AMD plan to do is integrate what is already an essentially "free" component onto the chip. And due to long CPU development cycles, the next-gen motherboard IGPs available when CPU-GPU hybrids finally arrive will be far superior.

When Intel's upcoming Larrabee was brought into the discussion, Jen-Sun remained aloof. Although Intel has publically stated that Larrabee will be fully DirectX and OpenGL compliant, with an integrated ray tracing engine, Jen-Sun didn't believe Intel would be successful. Jen-Sun claimed NVIDIA didn't just build chips that met some predetermined standard, but that the company innovated and help design and set the standards, which Intel has no experience doing. He also said that by the time Intel even had working Larrabee samples, NVIDIA would be multiple generations ahead of current offerings. NVIDIA was also dismissive of Intel's claim that ray tracing was the "future of gaming". NVIDIA believes some combination of ray tracing and traditional rasterization would be used at some point in the future, but ray tracing alone was not going to revolutionize the industry. Jen-Sun then spoke of the importance of the current installed base of GPUs and said that he doubted application developers would somehow choose to adopt Intel's vision for graphics, when NVIDIA will have already shipped hundreds of millions of GPUs before Intel even had a working Larrabee-based product back from the fab.

NVIDIA's Optimized PC Configurator

Other representatives from NVIDIA, including Ujesh Desai and Tony Tamasi, also covered topics like CUDA, partnering with VIA, and the

APX 2500. NVIDIA brought up a number of customers who have used CUDA to develop massively threaded applications that run many times faster on a GPU than any current general purpose CPU. NVIDIA also spoke of their plan to work with VIA to offer an ultra-low cost platform built around the Isaiah microprocessor, which will compete against Intel's upcoming Atom. And NVIDIA showed off their APX 2500 platform processor, which should debut in the coming months. The APX 2500 integrates an ARM microprocessor core, with a GeForce-based graphics processor and HD video engine and is designed to power next-gen mobile devices. We've actually played with a prototype APX 2500 handheld device and suspect NVIDIA will have much success with the chip.

One of the more telling developments in the last few days, that shows NVIDIA's intent to fight Intel (and AMD) tooth and nail, has to be the company's "Optimized with GeForce" PC configurator. NVIDIA wants consumers to re-learn how to buy a PC and are extolling the virtues of pairing a more powerful GPU with more affordable, lower clocked processors, to design a more balanced PC. Although NVIDIA would obviously love to sell more GPUs, there is no denying their argument makes sense in many usage scenarios.

Whatever the future holds, one thing is for certain - NVIDIA is a strong company with aggressive leadership. If their competition is aligning against them, you can rest assured NVIDIA isn't going to back down without a fight.

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