Microsoft Reacts But Did It Get Windows 8.1 Right?

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Microsoft Reacts But Did It Get Windows 8.1 Right?For Windows users of all kinds, the Windows "Blue" 8.1 update has been long-awaited. Those who've been using the base OS since launch have no doubt been anticipating some of the enhancements that are coming, while many others have been waiting patiently to see if the update manages to right enough wrongs to help persuade them to make the move. Has Microsoft succeeded in either of these cases? That's what we hope to find out.

At the moment, Windows 8.1 is available only as a preview, and if you are looking to give it a try, there are a couple of things to be aware of...

Microsoft Reacts But Did It Get Windows 8.1 Right?
Windows 8.1 - Start Screen

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It's ok. The start button is dumb, and they took away the "all apps" function when you right click on the metro menu.

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As mentioned in the article, that ability was replaced with a circled arrow that sits below the first row of tiles (it takes about a second to appear after entering the Start Screen). If you happen to prefer the All Apps view, you can make it so that it displays by default when you enter the Start Screen (it's in the same options area as the Boot to Desktop option on page 2).

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it crashed my system

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RMedley replied on Mon, Jul 1 2013 5:42 PM

its OK I guess but 8.1 does still have windows 8. Just to let you know I have been a beta tester for Microsoft Windows since prior to the release of Windows 95. I have used windows 8 on the pretrial beta and disliked it so much I did not even ask to be on the beta or test it even during the free test. I have also built a couple of pc's since windows 8 came out and bout one for someone in which the only choices were Vista and 8.0 and I chose Vista for my mother even just so she did not have to deal with 8.0. I ordered parts for a new PC yesterday because one of my families pcs is dieing and refuse to put windows 8 on it. So I will just keep using 7 until 9 comes out most likely just so I don't have to deal with 8!

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Sorry, but the modern UI is not going away. It will be present in Windows 9. This is Microsoft's strategy.

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I have one issue. The preview is kind of buggy on my device (asus vivotab), but I can deal with it and fix most of them. However when I search for the control panel, the utterly useless modern ui pc settings that hides everything I need access to is the first choice. This is super annoying. I got around it by typing panel. But pc settings does not contain the word control, so it should never, ever pop up in that circumstance, and if it does, definitely not the first choice.

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I simply don't want Modern UI. I had enough qualms about giving up XP for 7, but I refuse to "upgrade" to 8 or 8.1. If they keep pushing they're going to undermine their entire business model. They're killing off their stable business foundation in the hopes that they can succeed in a gadget market, even though they've always failed when they tried in the past. And a Start Button isn't what people wanted - they wanted a Start Menu. If I wanted an app store I would buy a Mac. I want a computer and not a toy.

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djay40 replied on Mon, Jul 1 2013 9:47 PM

Why so much hate on Windows 8? Win ME truly was a piece of crap back in its days! Windows 8 is not perfect and it takes a while getting used to but it is not a bad O.S. It has served me well during my months of beta test and since it was released. Needless to say: if you do not like it, use Win 7 instead.

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Have 8 since day 1, love every moment of it.

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Some people aren't smart enough to use the new interface, quite sad, but as you said the less capable people can use outdated stuff like Windows 7.

I have used 8 for a while now, and liked it's improvements so much I actually convinced the right people to get it installed in my work computer. Zero problems with all my programs, including a few CAD programs and Matlab, as well as games (still haven't tested the old Windows 98 era ones though) and multimedia programs.

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People actually wanted a broken UI item from the early 90s that was already outdated when XP came out?

Hell, most people never open the start menu at all! All they do is clutter their desktop with application shortcuts and files because it actually is faster than clicking five times to open the program you want.

Start screen is hands down faster than start menu for everything except restarting, and since 8 is many times more stable than XP you'll practically never need to do it manually. With 8.1 and the charms based search (as opposed to only start screen, it'll be even faster than start menu searching.

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I want a windows os not a tablet os on my pc

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zybch replied on Tue, Jul 2 2013 11:43 PM

Some people aren't stupid enough to use the new interface, quite understandable, but as you said the more capable people can use stuff like Windows 7 that actually allows them to use their PCs the way THEY want to rather than a bastardized version of iOS or android.

There. Fixed it for you.

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zybch replied on Tue, Jul 2 2013 11:51 PM

Why? Because MS arbitrarily took away something that worked perfectly and replaced it with a crippled iOS-like red-headed stepchild of a UI that makes the most simple things more difficult and slow.

It WASN'T what people wanted and even with 8.1 it STILL isn't.

Its a phone and tablet OS and does that job brilliantly, but its a total fail on a desktop PC and greatly gimps productivity unless you only like using 1 application at a time. Like one of the commenters above I've been a tester of MS stuff for many years (not quite as long though) and 8 is the only OS that I uninstalled after only a couple of days after finding it was almost completely unusable as a desktop OS.

Enterprise users will avoid it like the plague and stay on 7 till MS fixes this disaster or they move to mac or linux (both preferable to how MS has treated us with 8).

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Ill admit some people are too downright dumb to figure out the new UI, and microsoft not giving the option to use 7 style ui without a 3rd party app is downright retarded, but for most of us that hate the new ui of windows 8 its not because we are dumb or cant figure it out, its mostly because the majority of us DONT HAVE TOUCHSCREENS, most of us use a mouse and keybord, and the new ui of 8 is just mostly a hinderence for mouse and keybord usage especially while multi tasking. allthough with the 7 shell installed from your app of preference, 8 is a all in all solid OS and the "ms office" style ribbon on explorer is a welcome addition, just my 2 cents.

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Ill admit some people are too downright dumb to figure out the new UI, and microsoft not giving the option to use 7 style ui without a 3rd party app is downright retarded, but for most of us that hate the new ui of windows 8 its not because we are dumb or cant figure it out, its mostly because the majority of us DONT HAVE TOUCHSCREENS, most of us use a mouse and keybord, and the new ui of 8 is just mostly a hinderence for mouse and keybord usage especially while multi tasking. allthough with the 7 shell installed from your app of preference, 8 is a all in all solid OS and the "ms office" style ribbon on explorer is a welcome addition, just my 2 cents.

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Windows 8 is made for mobile PC oriented devices. I can't see anyone using it as a OS for their PC.

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Being an old 95,98 and XP fan, I did upgrade my newest PC to Windows 8. It took me a little while to figure out the quirks since I skipped Vista and Windows 7. After using it for a few days, the features I view as awkward are really no more annoying than learning how to use any app, program or OS. I really don't see that much of a change between 8.0 and 8.1 to warrant an upgrade. (at least until the real version comes out) I have recently installed Windows 7 on another one of my computers. It is closer to the way XP in appearance and am somewhat happy with the interface. But all in all, between Windows 7 and Windows 8, there are only a few differences that make it seem like it's more about preference and personal choice than functionality of the software. I may upgrade to 8.1 in the future just to keep up to date on the workings of the OS. But for now, my plans are to wait to see what Microsoft has in mind with Windows 9 when it eventually comes out.

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I'm fine with 8.1 for the only reason I upgraded, "Go to Desktop" option for startup. Don't use Metro, can find everything needed via Explorer or run dialong / command prompt. I think going from 7 to 8 is like going from Firefox to Chrome- first option is certainly fine and very usable, but the few little extra tweaks and boosts from the latter option are nice.

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I realize that I'll probably never like the start screen, and a lot of the elegance 7 has brought, I'm willing to try it now. With greater customization and the system being almost identical except for the start screen, I'll be able to adapt. Even still, I think I would cave and download a mod to add back the start menu, even though that should be a built in option.

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I love this GUI on a phone and tablet, but I am indifferent on the PC. I need to get some more time there. I think it is great for the way PC's are going though. With the latptop/netbooks/tablets taking over. We keep shrinking and wanting more hands on interaction and this GUI, does that really well, IMO.

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I really do not like Windows 8. I've tried to use it and I do not find it user friendly whatsoever. If Microsoft wanted to hit it big they should do something really cool like a Windows XP 2014 Edition, providing the latest Direct X, 64 bit capabilities, things like that. But we all know that will never happen. >_<

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nfs3freak replied on Mon, Jul 29 2013 8:35 PM

Was I the only one that had issues with 8.1? My Lenovo Y400 laptop came with Windows 8 pro. It had no issues whatsoever. After I installed 8.1 preview, the start up time increased 10 fold, i couldn't install programs or drivers, my USB ports stopped responding after the laptop was on for 5 minutes, and the laptop could not shutdown any longer unless I hold down the power button...I'll wait for the full version...but even then, I have my Win8 customized to where I like it, even with StartIsBack.

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Clixxer replied on Mon, Jul 29 2013 11:31 PM

Just to throw my .02 into this. 8.1 was a band aid on a wound that needed stiches, while not fatal it doesn't quite cover it and what it does cover is it did so badly. The only thing Windows got right with 8.1 was boot to desktop, the start menu is still far from what it should be. I was looking for just some basic functionality and it didn't even come close. 

Having said that I got Windows 8 Pro on my laptop ( I actually own 3 licenses) and use Stardock to make it perfect after a couple more tweaks to just boot into Windows and have it act the way I feel I have gotten used to and want to.

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