Aliyun is an open-source based OS that is also an open ecosystem that allows others to host their mobile-enabled Web sites in our cloud and we make those Web sites available to users who use Aliyun OS phones. So, we are an ecosystem that includes other Internet companies, whereas Android does not because it provides apps through downloads. It's the crux of the whole cloud vs. app debate. Cloud is open, apps system is closed because it is controlled by the operator of the apps marketplace.
Hey John Spelich -- We agree that the Aliyun OS is not part of the Android ecosystem and you're under no requirement to be compatible. However, the fact is, Aliyun uses the Android runtime, framework and tools. And your app store contains Android apps (including pirated Google apps). So there's really no disputing that Aliyun is based on the Android platform and takes advantage of all the hard work that's gone into that platform by the OHA. So if you want to benefit from the Android ecosystem, then make the choice to be compatible. Its easy, free, and we'll even help you out. But if you don't want to be compatible, then don't expect help from OHA members that are all working to support and build a unified Android ecosystem.
"Next stop: Court?"
I hope so. It would be instructive to see how the Red Chinese court system handles an obvious and blatant act of software piracy, committed by Aliyun against a large Western corporation like Google.
"the fact is, Aliyun uses the Android runtime, framework and tools"
I wonder - is there any proof of that? Pretty serious statement from Google side there - they should provide some proofs, shouldn't they?
The irony of this won't be lost on Oracle. And I thought Android was open ;-)
Blatant piracy ? Android is supposed to be open-source ! I fear, RTietjens, that you once again - as you did when you earlier referred to this as a spurious «claim» against Google (but now find it confirmed at the highest levels of the company) - are allowing your political prejudices to affect your judgement. The long and short of the matter is that Google is afraid that Aliyun could take off and run in the huge market for smartphones that everybody sees as looming in China (Red China ?) and is trying to put a stop to it by intimidating manufacturers. A bad decision ; there are more than enough firms with manufacturing know-how in China that one is bound to come forth, even if Acer has been scared off....
My personal concern isn't Google's profits in this case. However, profits of the 3rd party developers are of my concnern. If you compare the Play store to apps available on Aliyun, you will see numerous pirated copies of apps developed for Android available on Aliyun (examples include Temple Run and Angry Birds). The developer behind Temple Run has actually commented that they had no idea their app was being made available on Aliyun (they had never heard of Aliyun) when they were asked about it.
This, alone, is a frieghtening enough of an issue not to support Aliyun and/or Acer's attempt to manufacture devices running Aliyun.
That, i e, problems for developers of for-pay apps, DHerald, does indeed strike me as a valid concern. I'm not sure, however, that it suffices to support Google's pressuring Acer not to produce a device running Aliyun and I very much doubt that it is the major reason behind Google's decision to do so. But opinions here will differ - that, as Samuel Langhorne Clemens observed, is what makes horse races....
HH readers might find Charles Arthur's recent Guardian article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/sep/19/android-china-alibaba-acer-strain) on this issue of interest - note that a link to the original DigiTimes article is found in the article....
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