Too bad there's 1) no proof of this and 2) no test specs. For all we know that linux system could've been running a far more beasty GPU and CPU.
Im sure being OpenGL over DirectX certainly helped. I hope they do find a way to have both offerings, it would be nice to have the option for everyone.
I am pretty sure they used the same system to test this JvanHummel.
According to techspot.com , "Valve's testbed specs: an Intel Core i7 3930k, 32GB RAM and a Nvidia GeForce GTX 680. The Linux testbed is running Ubuntu 12.04 (32-bit) while Windows relies on Windows 7 SP1 (64-bit)."
link to article http://www.techspot.com/news/49630-valve-l4d2-runs-20-faster-on-ubuntu-than-windows-7.html
Now hurry up valve and get tf2 on linux, then i will be very happy.
Thanks :) It's not that I don't want this to run on Linux; I like linux, but I was just not expecting this so soon.
I would imagine most anything would run faster on Linux than Windows really unless of course it was Microsoft software, certified, or software that did not use a lot of resources in general. Whereas on Linux the OS is more streamlined not to use so many resources and not to have as much running in the background. Of course you pay for that in initial general off the shelf compatibility. I am glad to see current Games on Linux actually.
yeah no surprise there. Still have some native games running on Linux like Doom3 and Prey on an older AMD Athlon 2200+ rig and noticed they ran noticeably faster in comparison to playing the same game on the same hardware in Windows.
Easy to see another way too by checking out the Frictional Games Penumbra series of rather decent demos with both the installers available at http://www.penumbragame.com/demo.php and see while waiting to hear more about Valve on Linux.
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Linux has been renowned for its speed and efficiency, the unix based os has impressive stats and with the upcoming release of windows 8 and the new tablets being produced by microsoft, i wouldnt be suprised if more companies make the switch. The apple vs microsoft days are coming to a close, with apple as the victor, can linux be a possible new threat?
This is good news for die hard Left 4 Dead fans like me, i loved the original and won the campaign in 2 days after getting the game. i was a little disappointed in the sequel but a faster fps makes me feel a little better.
I'm no gamer and cannot address this issue directly, but I can say that generally speaking, identical applications that can run on both platforms run faster and more smoothly on 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04 on my dualboot machine with Ubuntu and (64-bit) Windows 7 Pro. So I'm not particularly surprised that this should be the case for this particular game....
PS : «Valve has been testing Left 4 Dead 2 on a system running a 32-bit version of Ubuntu 32-bit, ...» in the article should, of course, be «Valve has been testing Left 4 Dead 2 on a system running a 32-bit version of Ubuntu 12.04, ...»
mhenriday:I can say that generally speaking, identical applications that can run on both platforms run faster and more smoothly on 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04
This is true with my experiences too.
It's for sure that Linux requires less resources to install and run. If enough people are interested in seeing Linux run their favorite games, maybe it will happen. I'm all for it too.
I've squeezed new life out of old PCs just by installing Ubuntu or Zorin onto them.
My wife's school gave me 12 XP Pentium PCs with Intel boards and Seasonic PSUs in them. They had Kingston RAM and Seagate HDDs too.
I combined the RAM into 6 of them (doubling it) and installed free Zorin Linux onto them. Then I donated them to a shelter for battered women so they could search for jobs and contact relatives. I kept some of the parts that were left over for any needed repairs, and put what was left in the ~come and get it~ shack at the dump.
Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live.
This is great! Now when I'm working on the Linux sides of my triple boot, I won't have to turn my computer off and hop on Windows 7 to game, I can get right into L4D! I hope more developers plan to make their games compatible.
"You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to
them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new."
>> "Too bad there's 1) no proof of this and 2) no test specs. For all we know that linux system could've been running a far more beasty GPU and CPU."
The benchmarking was conducted by Valve themselves using the same system for both tests. If that's not good enough for you, then there's no convincing you.
What part of "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" don't you understand?
fat78:Now hurry up valve and get tf2 on linux, then i will be very happy.
TF2 will be coming. They're going to be refreshing the underlying engine to the latest Source version soon, which is the same version as in this L4D2 update.
«Too bad there's 1) no proof of this and 2) no test specs. For all we
know that linux system could've been running a far more beasty GPU and
CPU.» 1) depends, JvanHummel, upon what one is willing to accept as proof. As regards 2), there are indeed specs, available here : http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/. For those who can't be arsed to paste the URL into their browsers, the reported test specs were as follows :
Hardware Intel Core i7 3930k NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 32 GB RAMSoftware Windows 7 Service Pack 1 64-bit Left 4 Dead 2 Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit
The surprising thing here is that even running on a 32-bit version of Ubuntu 12.04, which means that no more than 12 % of the massive 32 GB RAM could be used, the game still ran some 16 % faster on Ubuntu than on Windows 7. Valve says it will run the game on a 64-bit version of Ubuntu 12.04 «later» ; it will be interesting to see the results....
mhenriday:For those who can't be arsed to paste the URL into their browsers
We aims to please ! By the way, kudos for the great work you did with the old school computers....
PS : Do you think, realneil, that it might be possible to convince the OP to correct that minor error I described in the PS to my first posting to the present thread ? I know I shouldn't let small things like that bother me, but for some reason it grates....
Email sent,....thanks Henri
I find the most interesting part is that Valve is using 64 bit Windows vs 32 bit Ubuntu. 32 bit greatly limits available RAM that can be used by Ubuntu by Windows at 64 bit can take advatnage of much more if not all of the memory without limits placed by teh operating system.
But of course, Linux is highly regarded as powerful in customization and efficency in computing. Afterall, the worlds fastest supercomputers run Linux of some sort. With gaming performance, Linux jsut needs developer support and it'll be much better for the user.
I can't wait for TF2 for Linux natively.
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