I won't be missing DVi and VGA (hell noooooooooo) we have to advance,I already moved on :) DVI and VGP just seem too old and big :-p
Hey paul Lilly i have to highlight that asking question to the news will motivate people to comment, so we can see their answers too.I will like that you keep asking questions at the end of the reviews/news which is a nice tactic, and i think people will agree with me.Thanks you very much
That is logical \\//
Anything I have, where graphics quality is important to me, is already hooked up to HDMI. And I don't think I ever used DVi :S So them being fazed out doesn't affect me. :)
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Why do you think that HDMI has advantage over DVI in graphics quality?
I have no idea, like I said I don't think I've ever used DVI.
HDMI and DVI are the samething, just HDMI carries audio in the same signal. Thats why its so good for TVs and such. HDMI is easier to upgrade and has been upgraded since it came out. Now the problem lies in are monitors now going to come with HDMI cables? There is really no difference between a $100 monster cable and the $5 cables off amazon. The price of HDMI is going to have to have to come down a little if its going to be included in boxes. Also, HDMI is going to have to be the standard on motherboards when people buy desktops. I know it already comes on a few desktops, but VGA still is kinda for the cheap market at say best buy.
The graphics quality is the same on the HDMI and DVI as far as i know. The only Advantage of the HDMI is that It carries audio and the DVI doesn't. HDMI looks better and is smaller as far as i can see :-p
I think somebody posted when i was typing lol but well we said the same thing :-p
I work in commercial A/V installation and our suppliers have been telling us about the phase out for a couple of years now. Our problem is that by converting to digital, the cable runs become more expensive (3 - 4x the cost) and sometimes more complicated with only a slight increase in quality. The push to digital seems to be driven more by content protection then display quality. There are manufacturer's that limit the resolution of the analog inputs of their TV's so that you can only get premium picture quality through the digital ports. However, the analog inputs, if they weren't limited, have the potential to show the same 1080p signal as the digital inputs. The good ol' VGA cable could be run 100 ft or longer without issue. With Digital cables you need Cat5 extenders and special shielded cable to get the job done. When VGA cables go bad, typically the image quality will be bad but still there. With Digital, there is no image when there is an issue and you have to spend more time troubleshooting the cable - source or HDCP issues. It can be very frustrating. Fortunately the industry has evolved and now HDMI/DVI are getting better to work with, but now there's Display Port to deal with and it looks like we will have to go through the same problems as we did with HDMI/DVI. On the plus side, I can count on having job security for the next few years with all the installations that we will have to convert from analog to digital.
@ Diggity0 interesting your post. Thanks you
I thought DVI, or at least dual link DVI, carried more bandwidth than hdmi. Correct me if im wrong, but aren't Nvidia and AMD's 3d solutions limited to 60fps while using hdmi?
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take a look at this http://binglongx.wordpress.com/2011/04/18/summary-of-vga-dvi-hdmi-and-displayport/ for those that are confused
I don't mind this switch at all though I know I am going to need a new monitor with my next rig. The only input on my 7 year old monitor is VGA so I even had to convert my DVI on my current machine to VGA.
The problem I have with most HDMI connections is that they max out at 1080p. I say most because if you have an HMDI 1.4 compatible graphics adapter and 1.4 compatible display, you can go higher res. The problem is many 30-inch panels are not HDMI 1.4 compatible now and we run 30-inch panels around here a lot.
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There's no advantage for graphics of HDMI over DVI, as HDMI is basically DVI with audio and DRM protection added. You can even use a basic connector adapter to switch between HDMI and DVI as long as you don't need audio.
The main thing is convenience as you don't need a separate audio cable with HDMI...
While the only limitations are in the specification for how it is used, but those will change as the standard becomes dominant and higher res screens become more common to take advantage of.
I have HDMI connectors on the gaming PC's, and DVI's on all of the rest.
They appear to work the same.
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Now that more monitors are starting to come with DisplayPort connectors, I definitely think it's time to say "bye-bye" to VGA & DVI. HDMI & DisplayPort seem to be doing a good job at exceeding the specs (newest versions of DP can handle 4K resolution). Yes, HDMI maxes out at 1080p AFAIK (maybe 1920x1200), but that's why we have DisplayPort as well.
It's about time they phased out VGA with its limited cable length and resolution, but I think DVI still holds its own even if HDMI and Display Port are better
I'm not going to mind but HDMI is not that much suitable as a replacement. I can see it as a convenient way to connect your media device to your TV (due to it having an audio signal.) but as a DVI replacement, unlikely. DisplayPort maybe since it has support for more color bits but very few monitors actually support that, making the difference between the two unlikely. I can understand why VGA is being phased out but DVI still has usage, the only thing that's wrong with it is that it's big and non intuitive but if it works, why try to replace it?
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As Diggity0 pointed out above, the change to digital here is driven not by concern for the consumer, but rather by the content industry's incessant attempts to block users from using their machines as they wish - termed «content protection» in Newspeak - the same sort of mentality (profit motive) behind such abominations as SOPA and PIPA. But who cares about users in the best of all possible worlds ?!!...
I've really just liked DVI better because it makes a good solid (screwed on) connection.....hdmi can be hit or miss on how well the device and the cable stay connected. That said, i would gladly use hdmi if i could afford one of these sweet Sony OLED monitors. http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-monitors/cat-oledmonitors/product-PVM2541/ Yeah, check that out...
VGA has been around for a long time, and for good reason - it just works, and it supports everything from 320x240 - 1600x1200. Not bad for an old geezer!
But time moves on, analog is giving away to digital, and a new standard must step up to take it's place. Whether it will be Display Port, HDMI, or something else it's hard to say. I just hope whatever it is, lasts as long as VGA. Having new standards rise up every couple of years would be hell.
This is good info to know when looking at buying a new computer and monitor.
What no one mentioned is D-DVI (Dual). HDMI is limited to 1920x1080 (including v1.4), while D-DVI goes to 2560x1600, currently the highest res for a single monitor.
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