The Big winner is ATI, and the 6970 in CrossFire and it's odd that their performance numbers were not included in the review, due to the fact that the GTX 590 is a dual graphics cards) This is no doubt a powerful card (GTX 590) , but the best value comes from ATI. I admit I was hard on the 6970 when it debuted, As I look back , it had excellent performance all around , plus 4 monitor set up right out of the box if you need it that.
Put two 6970 and you will be rocking any game @ high details. Don't get me wrong, the GTX 590 is an amazing feat, both for its size , noise level, engineering and driver support, but it failed to really topple the 6990.
If money is no Object, I might be inclined towards two 6990... for value performance, I would choose two 6970 in crossfire.
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The price tag on this card is insane as with most of the new high-end cards. I know they may be in some cases worth their weight in gold, but man thats almost half the cost of my last rig. I will have to save up for a new card soon. All I can say is wow I could put a down payment on a new motorcycle for that much.
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well its finaly here maybe the price will drop for some other earlier cards.
With BF3 coming out later this year with its focus on the PC market how can you not have a BC2 benchmark? If there's one game that this card will play it is BF3! On top of it, BC2 is one very graphical and awesome game so should be a benchmark even without BF3.
I'm upgrading from a GTX 295 to a GTX 580, which is currently on the way. I expect a good increase in performance but these numbers have me intrigued but my wallet scared.
Schmich: I tend to disagree. While it does look awesome graphically, benchmarketly it's a little disapointing as even with a 580 at 920Mhz you can get high framerates even with a higher-resolution, so yeah...
Besides, while I like the game (and the fact that I won it in an HH contest myself.) It stresses the GPU card in terms of temperature rather then framerates, I got like 72-76 degrees playing with BF:BC2 compared to the meager 66-71 degrees I get benchmarking with Heaven or Crysis.
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If you have to play everything in the highest detail possible than you need a top of the line graphics card like this or the 6990. Personally I always stay 1 step below top of the line when building a rig since the brand new cards are so expensive and only top of the line for a few months at best. I also am more focused on lag when playing games than having to play at the absolute highest graphics settings. It's more about the experience than the eye candy for me.
I agree, buying middle of the road seems like wisest option; the gtx 570 and 580 are amazing cards that wont cost you 700! Yikes! I do a lot of 3D and after effects work so I usually skimp on the graphics card and put more money towards the processor and ram. This card is a beast though, good work nvidia!
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would rather have the dual 580's in my pc... although im kinda curious to what they are able to overclock the 590 at? if it can get up there then i might purchase it :)
This looks good I think they are heading in the right direction. They have needed something big to compete with the 6990.
ATI sucks balls I own a asus 5970 now there drivers are terrible never had a stable driver since 10.4's been waiting for the geforce 590 for awhile to trade.
ya dual 580's will do me just fine ;P lol
Price is not on my side here! :( but does pretty good, not the best but can preform nicely.
What would BC2 performance have to do with BF3? The games will have totally different performance profiles. The numbers from one mean nothing in comparison to the other.
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Jesta42o at least ATi drivers doesn't kill cards like Nvidia's do lol.
Excellent read. I also really dug the animated tour of the card on top of page 2. FANCY
I always buy the fastest card out and am a little surprised the GTX 590 couldn't beat the HD 6990.
I'd be interested to see how well two 590s compare to a couple of 6990s in a multi-monitor setup.
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I do love NVIDIA a lot, but the price tag on this thing could scare away some of the most avid gamers! The best way to get a good gaming experience would be to go SLI with the lower NVIDIA 500 series, or with RADEON 5000 or 6000 series cards. Heck even three-way Crossfire has proven to scale very well for both NVIDIA and ATI cards: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-3-way-scaling,2865.html
Although ATI wins that battle... sadly I think that my fanship of NVIDIA is coming to an end! :'-(
The GTX 590 is $699, same as AMD Radeon HD 6990. I don't see a compelling reason to pick Nvidia's card over ATI's.
I may be buying this card, sure I might be envious towards the 6990 but I don't know if ATI has enabled Supersampling AA for DX11 on their cards yet, and that for me is a major turnoff for now (yes I know there's a program but I don't know if it'll work with Crossfire or not.)
Guess who's working on that right now? :) Umm... it was a bit challenging, let's say though.
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These cards seem to be on pretty even footing really. I know the numbers don't say it completely, but really the degree of performance with doth the ATI/AMD and Nvidia cards is astronomical. I am and have been an ATI user for quite some time, yes I have owned Nvidia hardware, but ATI has been my default. I even still have my original ATI All in wonder Pro lol. But the thing here is that for about $100 less you could crossfire or SLI a couple of these for cheaper. I know it is $100 dollars, but if you are gonna blow $700 bucks on one video card why not just get three and do the real combination thing anyway really.
Is this the card that came out with the limited addition of "Crysis" ??
I seriously need to upgrade. my graphic card is low...or i should say ok. i have GeForce 335m, i want a new one...but which is better Nvidia or Radeon?
i really dont know the difference.
The article has been updated with quad-SLI and quad-CrossFireX (plus 2-way SLI and CrossFire) in all of the game tests.
one of these would be nice to have.
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The quad-GPU scaling is really awesome.But I would like to see 6970 Three way crossfirex or gtx 580 3 way SLI scaling. I think they would beat the quad -GPU performance of the likes of gtx 590 or 6990.
The following link shows that a radeon HD 6950 gives an impressive scaling result of close to 250% at 2560*1600(which by the way is the lowest resolution that someone spending so much money is going to play on).
Nvidia has in the past been the flagship for the higher performance cards and ATI a.k.a. Radeon's (now AMD) has been the bang for buck card allthough they do have high end performance cards too.
At the moment, their in a gridlock and for the best cards available the pricing is the same but for an upgrade I would go with AMD/ATI.
For really cheap at around $100+/- I'd go with a GTX 460 or Radeon 5770, if your looking to get into the $200 range, I think the Radeon 5850 or 6870 will give you some a noticeable difference as well
Also an option well worth considering at $200 range is 5770 cfx
I love both ATI and Nvidia, but price/performance wise, ATI wins by a longshot. I also think that NVIDIA chickened out with the 590. They could have tried to achieve higher clock speeds, but they slimmed it down by a lot considering that its two 580s that are in there.
Well writen article. if I was to buy one, I would probably go for the Radeon instead of the GeForce, but not just becase of the numbers, also because of their support (ie drivers). They are still writing drivers compatible with their 3xxx series cards, where as nvidea doesn't support anything that old, to the best of my knowlege.
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