Steve Jobs Anti-Android Rant, Audio + Transcript

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Never one to shy away from a bit of a bit of hyperbole, Apple CEO Steve Jobs, who usually eschews Apple post-earnings' analyst calls, dropped in yesterday to participate in, he said, Apple's first $20 billion quarter earnings call. He also took the time to go off on a 5 minute anti-Android rant, after being prompted by a question.

The highlights of the tirade:
  • Apple has 300,000 apps in the App Store (first official confirmation)
  • Android is fragmented and getting more fragmented every day
  • Don't forget Google has admitted current Android versions are not tablet-optimized
  • The upcoming Android tablets will be DOA
  • The minimal size for a tablet is 10", and OEMs will learn that when their Android tablets fail
  • Open vs. closed is a smokescreen
  • Open doesn't always win
There's plenty more, and you can listen to it below. Of course, folks have already been firing back, and not just Google employees, either, but outside developers as well. The transcript follows, as well:

As most of you know, I don't usually participate in Apple's earnings calls since you are all in such capable hands with Peter and Tim. But I just couldn't help dropping by for our first $20 billion quarter. I would like to chat about a few things and then stay for the rest of the Q&A if that's alright.

First, let me discuss iPhone. We sold 14.1 million iPhones in the quarter which represents a 91 percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter and was well ahead of IDC's latest published estimate of 64 percent growth for the global smartphone market in the September quarter. And it handily beat RIM's 12.1 million Blackberry's sold in their most recent quarter ending in August. We've now passed RIM, and I don't seem them catching up with us in the foreseeable future. They must move beyond their area of strength and comfort into the unfamiliar territory of trying to become a software platform company.

I think it's going to be a challenge for them to create a competitive platform and to convince developers to create apps for yet a third software platform after iOS and Android. With 300,000 apps on Apple's App Store, RIM has a high mountain ahead of them to climb.

Well, what about Google? Last week, Eric Schmidt reiterated that they are activating 200,000 Android devices per day. And have around 90,000 apps in their App Store. For comparison, Apple has activated around 275,000 iOS devices per day on average for the past 30 days with a peak of almost 300,000 iOS devices per day on a few of those days. And Apple has 300,000 apps on its App Store.

Unfortunately, there is no solid data on how many Android phones are shipped each quarter. We hope that manufacturers will soon start reporting the number of Android handsets they ship each quarter. But today that just isn't the case. Gartner reported that around 10 million Android phones were shipped in the June quarter and we await to see if iPhone or Android was the winner in this most recent quarter.

Google loves to characterize Android as open, and iOS and iPhone as closed. We find this a bit disingenuous and clouding the real difference between our two approaches. The first thing most of us think about when we hear the work open is Windows which is available on a variety of devices. Unlike Windows, however, where most pc's have the same user interface and run the same app, Android is very fragmented. Many Android OEMs, including the two largest, HTC and Motorola install proprietary user interfaces to differentiate themselves from the commodity Android experience. The users will have to figure it all out. Compare this with iPhone, where every handset works the same.

Twitter client, Twitter Deck (sic), recently launched their app for Android. They reported that they had to contend with more than 100 different versions of Android software on 244 different handsets. The multiple hardware and software iterations present developers with a daunting challenge. Many Android apps work only on selected Android handsets running selected Android versions. And this is for handsets that have been shipped less than 12 months ago. Compare this with iPhone, where there are two versions of the software, the current and the most recent predecessor to test against.

In addition to Google's own app marketplace, Amazon, Verizon and Vodafone have all announced that they are creating their own app stores for Android. So there will be at least four app stores on Android, which customers must search among to find the app they want and developers will need to work with to distribute their apps and get paid. This is going to be a mess for both users and developers. Contrast this with Apple's integrated App Store, which offers users the easiest-to-use largest app store in the world, preloaded on every iPhone. Apple's App Store has over three times as many apps as Google's marketplace and offers developers' one-stop shopping to get their apps to market easily and to get paid swiftly.

Even if Google were right, and the real issue is closed versus open, it is worthwhile to remember that open systems don't always win. Take Microsoft's PlaysForSure music strategy, which use the PC model, which Android uses as well, of separating the software components from the hardware components. Even Microsoft finally abandoned this open strategy in favor of copying Apple's integrated approach with their Zoom Player, unfortunately leaving their OEMs empty-handed in the process. Google flirted with this integrated approach with their Nexus One phone.

In reality, we think the open versus closed argument is just a smokescreen to try and hide the real issue, which is, what's best for the customer, fragmented versus integrated. We think Android is very, very fragmented and becoming more fragmented by the day. And as you know, Apple's strives for the integrated model so that the user isn't forced to be the systems integrator.

We see tremendous value in having Apple rather than our users' be the systems integrator. We think this is a huge strength of our approach compared to Google's. When selling to users who want their devices to just work, we believe integrated will trump fragmented every time. And we also think our developers can be more innovative if they can target a singular platform rather than a hundred variants. They can put their time into innovative new features rather than testing on hundreds of different handsets.

So we are very committed to the integrated approach, no matter how many times Google tries to characterize it as closed. And we are confident that it will triumph over Google's fragmented approach, no matter how many times Google tries to characterize it as open.

Second, I'd like to comment on the avalanche of tablets poised to enter the market in the coming months. First, it appears to be just a handful of credible entrants, not exactly an avalanche. Second, almost all of them use seven-inch screens as compared to iPad's near 10-inch screen. Let's start there. One naturally thinks that a seven-inch screen would offer 70 percent of the benefits of a 10-inch screen. Unfortunately, this is far from the truth. The screen measurements are diagonal, so that a seven-inch screen is only 45 percent as large as iPad's 10-inch screen. You heard me right; just 45 percent as large

If you take an iPad and hold it upright in portrait view and draw an imaginary horizontal line halfway down the screen, the screens on the seven-inch tablets are a bit smaller than the bottom half of the iPad display. This size isn't sufficient to create great tablet apps in our opinion.

Well, one could increase the resolution of the display to make up for some of the difference. It is meaningless, unless your tablet also includes sandpaper, so that the user can sand down their fingers to around one quarter of the present size. Apple's done extensive user-testing on touch interfaces over many years, and we really understand this stuff. There are clear limits of how close you can physically place elements on a touch screen before users cannot reliably tap, flick or pinch them. This is one of the key reasons we think the 10-inch screen size is the minimum size required to create great tablet apps.

Third, every tablet user is also a smartphone user. No tablet can compete with the mobility of a smartphone, its ease of fitting into your pocket or purse, its unobtrusiveness when used in a crowd. Given that all tablet users will already have a smartphone in their pockets, giving up precious display area to fit a tablet in our pockets is clearly the wrong tradeoff. The seven-inch tablets are tweeners, too big to compete with a smartphone and too small to compete with an iPad.

Fourth, almost all of these new tablets use Android software, but even Google is telling the tablet manufacturers not to use their current release, Froyo, for tablets, and to wait for a special tablet release next year. What does it mean when your software suppliers does not (inaudible) to use their software in your tablet? And what does it mean when you ignore them and use it anyway?

Fifth, iPad now has over 35,000 apps on the App Store. This new crop of tablets will have near zero.

And sixth and last, our potential competitors are having a tough time coming close to iPad's pricing, even with their far smaller, far less expensive screens. The iPad incorporates everything we have learnt about building high value products from iPhones, iPods and Macs. We create our own A4 chip, our own software, our own battery chemistry, our own enclosure, our own everything. And this results in an incredible product at a great price. The proof of this will be in the pricing of our competitor's products which will likely offer less for more.

These are among the reasons we think the current crop of seven-inch tablets are going to be DOA, Dead on Arrival. Their manufacturers will learn the painful lesson that their tablets are too small and increase the size next year, thereby abandoning both customers and developers who jumped on the seven-inch bandwagon with an orphan product. Sounds like lots of fun ahead.

So thank you, and let me turn it back to Peter for the Q&A session.

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AlanH replied on Wed, Oct 20 2010 12:02 PM

Lol, that's all I can really say

"Its not closed vs open, its integrated vs fragmented" that line is gonna make me chuckle all day :P

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RIM CEO fired back today:

"While Apple's attempt to control the ecosystem and maintain a closed platform may be good for Apple, developers want more options and customers want to fully access the overwhelming majority of web sites that use Flash ( ADBE )," Balsillie's statement reads. "Many customers are getting tired of being told what to think by Apple."

ZING!!!

 

 

Read more: http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2010-10/rim-ceo-fires-back-at-apple-counterpart.aspx?storyid=41299#ixzz12vvCrOR6

 

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realneil replied on Wed, Oct 20 2010 11:16 PM

Didn't I read somewhere that Android based devices are outselling everything else on the market combined? Market share speaks in a much louder tone than whining does.

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Seems stupid to me. They had such an amazing quarter and all that is in the background because Steve comes on acting all defensive as if he feels they are losing.

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Yeah, that seem to be a major problem going around amongst the Elites. They all know better than you and everyone is so stupid if they don't agree with them. They feel that they are entitled to have everything their way. At least Tiger admitted it. I would bet that Jobs even has some nekid underage male chinese slaves doing his bidding, locked away in the turtleneck mansion! That is probably where he gets his extra body parts to keep himself alive:P

 
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digitaldd replied on Thu, Oct 21 2010 11:17 AM

I like the headline here the best: Seven inches is enough, RIM tells Jobs

 

Everybody repeat after me..

 

That's what SHE said.    ;)

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wastime replied on Thu, Oct 21 2010 2:34 PM

you will see one more time the jobs face he is thinking "im looking the looser" what a great software android??? he he he LOL see this blog

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Why you might have an app for that I have flash for that. ahahahah

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3vi1 replied on Tue, Oct 26 2010 3:50 PM

Steve's crazy on lots of counts here:

1) He's saying they have 300,000 iOS apps while there are only 90,000 Android apps. Considering the iPhone's head-start, this means Apple's getting their ass kicked as developers embrace Android.

2) He's "waiting" to see if Android or iPhone shipped the most last quarter. He knows it was Android, if he paid attention to the data from the advertising firms.

3) He called Windows "OPEN", because the interface is "LOCKED DOWN" and tries to make it sound like the iPhone is open by virtue of that same defect. Can manufacturers extend it? No?  THEN IT'S NOT OPEN.

4) He pretends that multiple app stores is a bad thing, when it's the opposite. This works like repositories in Linux, which are quite simple. A company may create an "Adult App Store" or "Flash Apps Store" and then the user gets to choose if they want that on their phone or not - NOT HAVE APPLE CHOOSE FOR YOU. *THAT*'s "Open".

Steve has his reality distortion field turned up to 11 on this one.

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acarzt replied on Wed, Oct 27 2010 1:30 PM

I got some hands on with the ipad... since my mom and dad each got one, even tho I told them not too.

I like the size, the screen looks nice... but the main thing I would use it for... is web browsing... and I ran into a LOT of limitations because I kept getting the "This page requires flash" error. It was very frustrating and find myself just grabbing a laptop to view the page... Stupid apple... I hate it.

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