And it's even available to disloyal Linux users and the general public!
>> The new version is10.04 LTS, which is arriving right around a year after
9.10 "KarmicKoala" launched.
6 months after. The .## designations after the version number denote the month of release. It's always released in April and October - so it's always .04 or .10. Come rain or shine, all 'buntu distros are released every 6 months.
>> Anyone dared to download yet? Considering it as a weekend project?
I'm glad you asked! I've been running it (the Kubuntu flavor) since Alpha 1, and will be running Meerkat in a few weeks - because I love the bleeding edge. Heheh
I just put it on the new system HH gave me and it ROCKS. It boots In 60% the time of Windows 7 on the same box, and recognized all the hardware immediately. The install disk even let me resize the NTFS partitions on the C: (sda) and D: (sdb) drives and install the OS without any problems whatsoever.
Full Disclosure: I soon swapped the ATI 5870 card in the system with an nVidia 9800GTX+ from my kids' PC (which primarily runs Vista), because my cursory examination of the proprietary ATI drivers for Linux leads me to believe they *SUCK*. At least, as far as running Windows games under WINE goes (They do seem to work okay for Linux/OpenGL games and 3D desktop accelleration).
What part of "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" don't you understand?
3vi1 how do you like it compared to karmic koala?
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3vi1 how do you like it compared to karmic koala?
It's much better. KDE4.4 has had time to get properly polished and is now the desktop KDE4 should have been in the previous releases.
I've put it on four machines, and it's recognized every bit of hardware in each. It did not even needing any tweaking for the wireless and audio this time around, and those are the areas that have historically been the roughest edges of Linux.
This is one thing I am somewhat perplexed on in the tablet market. Why does some company not run a stripped down specialized version of Linux. I mean android in many ways is the same thing, so is the i OS on all there mobile devices ( a chopped down version of a UNIX OS which is what Apple has always used). HP dumped there tablet from what I am hearing because a full blown version of Windows was not efficient on it "Go Figure", it is made for a full blown computer basically, not a smart device.
Actually, companies do run Linux on tablets. Joojoo is one example. There should be quite a few more companies (Nokia, for sure) releasing Meego tablets any day now (which is also Linux).
I have it on my laptop in a dual boot configuration with Win7. I had it as a pre-release too. Everything works well with the Lappy. At first there was a glitch with the wireless card in the laptop, (it's an HP Pavilion dv6000) requiring a workaround that I found in the Ubuntu support forums. This happened only with the Pre-Release/Beta version. The full release had no problems seeing and configuring all of my hardware. Ubuntu even upgraded itself to the newer, full release version after asking for permission to do so,.....completely unattended!
I laugh at the fact that such a good and full featured OS is totally free to anyone who wants it. Then I look at the pricing of several versions of Windows knowing that it costs $290.00 for their very best one, and it doesn't even include an Office program (Ubuntu does) and then, I have to cry.
Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live.
realneil:a workaround that I found in the Ubuntu support forums.
That's one of the best things about Linux. When you run into a problem, it's almost certain that some crazy early adopter has hit the same issue and already posted a bug and fix to Launchpad, http://ubuntuforums.org/, http://www.kubuntuforums.com/, http://forum.kde.org/, etc.
The community support is really at a whole level above Windows, not only because there are a lot of users that love to help - but because the platform's completely open for anyone to debug and fix.
Yeah, I know there are some the tablet platform is just a different platform. Battery and run time longevity are main points more so than in anything else except for smart phones. Linux is or can be made to be much more forgiving on energy, especially with a closed platform such as a tablet.
They also seem to run much better in this aspect with ARM/Tegra etc type of processors, while still being capable of operating at an acceptable level of performance. With a closed hardware platform like a tablet though drivers can be written specifically for included hardware much easier on a software platform such as Linux. SO it would just seem like the given for something of this nature. Not to mention I know it's the reason HP bought out PALM for there version, which is just a specialized flavor.
go get it 3vi1 :)
Ever notice that all the release names sound like names for different types of weed :P
I wish I could run it, I just know my programs don't like it :(
Maybe talk the Linux people into developing an Internet security suite for all platform and distribute that for free as well? If they could make it stable and reliable. They could build it on the same business model of Google. Then I guarantee that they would blow Google and Windows of the market. Can you just imagine all the people who hate having to buy security suites every year!
>> Maybe talk the Linux people into developing an Internet security suite for all platform and distribute that for free as well?
You can't tack secure OS design on as a 3rd party app.
Security in Linux is mostly due to the architecture, open code review of all kernel changes, and fact that almost all common software comes from authenticated repos. It's damn near impossible to get a virus when there's a free app for everything and you don't have to illegally copy software from questionable sources.
Most Linux users don't actually run any security software or AV. The few that do usually run ClamAV (http://www.clamav.net) - which has a Windows port and is free.
This darn update is a pain in my rump. I have it running great on my PC. Even playing a little Team Fortress. Installed Kubuntu netbook edition on my netbook, though I have not played with that much yet.
Jen's PC though is being a pain. I get a MCE CPU error at boot. IDK how to fix it. Never had a issue before installing Ubuntu on that PC.
What's the exact error it's spitting out? I'll help you look around for a solution, if you haven't already found one.
I don't know if you can read this. I can type it all out if you can't.
Wow... that's an odd one. This system isn't overclocked or anything, is it? I ask because that kind of exception usually only happens with hardware problems (like the message about "not a software problem" says).
I gather that this is on a machine that ran previous versions of Ubuntu and Windows fine though... so that has me a little puzzled.
When did you get this error? Is this while trying to boot into a Wubi install?
Not overclocked at all.
E4300 @ 1.8GHz
3GBs of ram(yeah I know)
BIOSTAR G965 Micro 775(Vista)
Ran the Ubuntu 9.04 before I wiped it to do a fresh install of 10.04. Idk if she ever upgraded to 9.10 or not. It was a Wubi install. It is running Windows 7 right now.
I get the error when I try to launch the live CD or after installing Wubi in windows and rebooting into Ubuntu. It's not a huge deal. She doesn't use linux much. She just likes to show it off and mess around sometimes.
On a side note I am really liking my install.
Good news and bad news:
The bad news (for you) is: I can't find any report of anyone else having the same sort of issue.
The good news is: You're unique. :) And, I'll tell you how I would go about getting this resolved:
1) Since you did the install on another machine fine, I'm going to assume the install media was the same and is fine. If that's not the case, maybe check/re-download the install media.
2) Install VirtualBox in Win7 on this laptop, then try to do the install in there. Hopefully you'll get the same error. I say hopefully you will, because this gives you a much easier way to copy the messages for the next step.
3) Take the exact error and system specs, and open a bug at Launchpad. Normally, they want people to report problems using the "report a problem" menu item, or at worse by using the ubuntu-bug command, but since this is a rather extreme and odd installation problem, just use the link I just gave you here. Include any BIOS settings info that you think might be relevant to the CPU. Be sure to let them know how the 9.04 and Win7 OS's work fine on the same box - since that makes this seem like it's a bug specific to the 2.6.32 kernel and your hardware.
4) Keep an eye on the bug. Some guru will likely come back and ask a question or request new info that is just beyond my grasp. Make sure to supply it so that the bug doesn't get stuck in and Incomplete state.
3vi1:1) Since you did the install on another machine fine, I'm going to assume the install media was the same and is fine. If that's not the case, maybe check/re-download the install media.
Yeah I used the same flash drive to install it on my desktop and Jens.
I'll work the rest tonight. Thanks for the help 3vi1.
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