AMD Phenon X4 965 vs Intel Core2 Quad Q8400?

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AtaxicNinja Posted: Sat, Feb 6 2010 6:04 PM

I'm about to order a new computer as a "budget" gaming system and I need to know what processor to get, An AMD Phenon X4 965 2.66 GHz or a Intel Core2 Quad Q8400 2.66 GHz. I'm planning on getting a EVGA p55 sli mother board with Nvidia Geforce GTS 250 Graphics card. Which would you recommend?

 

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well with a p55 you have to get the intel cpu. also the p55 chipset is socket 1156 and not lga775 like the intel cpu you plan on getting... only the new i7 and i5 are 1156...

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Ah right, I was wondering about compatibility issues. :P So should I go with a i7860 or i5 670 then?

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Drago replied on Sun, Feb 7 2010 8:10 PM

If you want the AMD chip, you must get an motherboard that will support the chip ie AM3.  There are lots of nice options for AM3 motherboards out there for low prices.  If you want SLi MSI has some options for $150 and under.  If you are just going with a single card config all the way, then you could get a  790FX/GX/X board and be just fine as well. 

The new lga1156 socket and the core i5/i7 chips that work on them are decent enough, but i wouldnt call them "budget" gamer parts.  AMD still has intel beat in price and performance is fairly comparable in most games.  With a gaming rig, the video card is the most important part of the system.  So if you can save some cash going with AMD so that you can get a better vid card, then gaming wise you will be better off.  Changing procs and platforms may only get you 5fps, where as a faster vid card gets you more like 20+ fps

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Ah right, I was wondering about compatibility issues. :P So should I go with a i7860 or i5 670 then?

 

Out those two, the i7 860. But as Drago already beat me to the punch, it won't be a budget system by any means.

What's your budget, may we suggest some alternatives?

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Ah right, I was wondering about compatibility issues. :P So should I go with a i7860 or i5 670 then?

 

Out those two, the i7 860. But as Drago already beat me to the punch, it won't be a budget system by any means.

What's your budget, may we suggest some alternatives?

Like Gib said, this won't be a budget pc anymore, this will hit over $1000 pretty quickly.

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Haha, I kind of forgot I posted in here. :P Anyway I got my new PC a couple days ago, here are the specs.

Intel i5-750,

EVGA Geforce 9800 GT 1GB of ram (I actually have two but the Nvidia SLI drivers are crap and coused the computer to crash on startup works fine with only one card.) 

Asus P7P55D deluxe 

4 GB DDR3 RAM

I also got a Friggin sweet Monitor Dell 24" U2410

Thanks for the tips tho!

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Inspector replied on Sat, Feb 20 2010 12:33 PM

Congrats on your new build :D have fun messing with it Wink

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RyuGTX replied on Sun, Feb 21 2010 1:46 AM

How is the u2410 working out for you? Did you get one of the new revisions? Hope you don't have any bad tinting issues!

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The U2410 is a brilliant monitor, The only reason some people get tinting issues is because they're using the profile. It's an excellent monitor definitely worth the money (i believe it's on sale now too.)

I just hope that Nvidia get their act together and upgrade the driver, shattered horizon would look so much better. Also, I cannot return the card because there is physically nothing wrong with it, but i'm keeping the second card for when they update the drivers, then i'll try it again.

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Jgaler replied on Fri, May 21 2010 12:46 AM

First of all congratulation for your new rig. The configuration of yours is really good. I am using U2210 monitor and never face any tinting issues yet.

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Now that i've had the rig for a while I can safely say that it is AWESOME. Nvidia did an update for the drivers so I can have both cards in at the same time. There still kind of is an issue but it`s not that huge.

I cannot enable sli because of bottlenecking issues. As my Processor is running at 2.67 Ghz the cards are pumping out the graphics faster than my processor can keep up. I could overclock my processor to make up for it but my room is already very warm and i don`t have money to install liquid cooling. Ah well, it just means that one card is set aside for PhysX processing only. 

Awesome rig. I highly recommend any of the components. 

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I could be wrong and hopefully someone else will chime in, but I'm pretty sure that even at stock speed the 750 shouldn't bottleneck even more powerful GFX cards then what you have.

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Yeah, I dunno. I didn't really look into it that much because I can run all of my games at the highest graphics settings all ready. Smile However if anyone could provide some more info to what's going on that would be great! i'll just clear up the problem a little first

What happening is: I've got two 9800 GT gfx cards each with 1 Gb of on-board ram. both are currently installed but in the nvidia control panel SLI is NOT enabled. When sli is enabled i get a much MUCH slower frame rate than normally 5-15 fps compared to the 30-40 that i get without sli (please note that the second frame rate range was found with a benchmark. so that's my system under stress.) if anyone could give a possible solution other than bottlenecking it would be AWESOME! 

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what drivers are you using? and not all game work well with SLI

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I just installed the latest 197.45 driver. Tried enabling sli again and i still got better performance out of non sli graphics

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realneil replied on Fri, May 28 2010 8:29 PM

The P55 Chipset (socket 1156) runs one PCI-E card at X16 Speed. Add another and it divides the bandwidth to two running at X8 speeds. It's a limitation of the P55 Chipset and the socket 1156 series CPU's that have the PCI-E built into them and not on the main-board. And there's no way to get around it.

Just having the one card in the computer, and another just for Phys-X and not even running in SLI mode makes the system run both of them at X8 speed too.

Allot of AMD boards don't have this limitation, and the other Intel CPU's i7-930 (socket 1366) and faster do not have the limitation either. They run a different Chipset and two cards can run at full X16 speed together.

The best way to make a P55 based system run faster is to upgrade the Video Card, just one video card. I have an ATI XFX Radeon HD 5850 Black 1GB card paired with my i5-750 and it's awesome running at X16 speeds.

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Ooooooh! xD thanks a bunch, that explains everything. I'm probably not going to upgrade now though, simply because i only just got the system (and i have no money :P). However, I will certainly keep that in mind! Thanks again! :)

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realneil replied on Sat, May 29 2010 9:10 AM

You already said the the system runs fast and you like it, so waiting awhile until you can upgrade the video card will be painless at best.

So it's OK.

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datage replied on Wed, Jun 23 2010 4:01 AM

The Asus P7P55D Deluxe plus the the support for i7 processor. for future upgrade. You might consider the new i7 875 unlocked processor.
See the URL:
http://www.centralcomputers.com/corp/pages/intel_unlocked.html

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realneil replied on Wed, Jun 23 2010 9:31 AM

Your CPU recommendation is a good one, but the source you recommend is too expensive. $349.95 plus shipping and $49.95 plus shipping for the heatsink. Total: $399.90 before shipping costs. Crying

NewEgg sells the Same CPU for $329.00 (shipping included) and has a better aftermarket heatsink for $21.98 shipped. Total is $350.98 Delivered to your door.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116368 CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150107 Heatsink

NewEgg has consistently lower prices and their service is stellar.

BTW: I don't work for them and I don't own any of their stock if they are a public company,....but I do shop there a lot.

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oezil replied on Tue, Jun 29 2010 6:34 AM

AMD Phenom II X4 965 is a good processor which and the ASUS M4A88TD-M are the perfect match.

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dlim783 replied on Thu, Jul 1 2010 1:49 PM

You might want to wait 'till Intel Core i7 950's Price go down from $500 to $294 USD; replacing Intel Core i7 930 Processor. And get the ASUS X58 P6x58D-Extreme/Premium Motherboard. i7 950 will cost $294 around this August.

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dlim783 replied on Thu, Jul 1 2010 1:52 PM

Intel always beat AMD!

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No they haven't. Netburst got owned.

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dlim783 replied on Thu, Jul 1 2010 3:02 PM

Wrong...

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Prove me wrong.

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dlim783 replied on Thu, Jul 1 2010 7:30 PM

You sir need to do some research.

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Athlon slower than P4?! I don't think so.

Ready... set... troll!!!

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dlim783 replied on Thu, Jul 1 2010 9:57 PM

"Athlon slower than P4."

Wow. You're an idiot... I didn't talk about Athlon vs P4.

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dlim783 replied on Thu, Jul 1 2010 9:58 PM

You need to keep on the same topic. We're not talking about something else...

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dlim783:
You're an idiot

You're new here and welcomed, but chill on calling people idiots if you disagree with them. If I'm wrong I'll admit it, but disrespecting me... why?

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iniesta replied on Mon, Jul 12 2010 4:04 AM

I would recommend the eVGA GTX260.
That'd do nicely. It runs a bit faster than the GTS250, plus DVI and HDMI ports. You'll be able to run fullscreen in games, if you want to.
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acarzt replied on Mon, Jul 12 2010 5:50 AM

This is a very old post and for the price of that GTX 260 you could get the new GTX460.

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