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acarzt Posted: Sat, Dec 19 2009 7:37 PM

Ok guys... after reading the article about the Digital Storm and seeing how much of an effect their tweaks had... i'm going to attempt to replicate their results.

So i'm gonna do some baseline test real quick. First I uninstalled went and uninstalled some games and such that i'm not playing right now. My system is also not on a clean install... so it's already quite slowed down. So let's see how much of an improvement I can make. Now my results as is..

PCMark Vantage: 9548... Not bad... I'm using the trial version so no settings can be changed.

ATTO: Peak Read is 308MB/s peak write is 175 MB/s. Now some of you might think, that's pretty good... Actually that sucks when you compare it to the 421 MB/s Read and 304 MB/s write that I got when I first built the system. Is Vista to blame, or is the degradation on these SSDs just THAT bad? We shall see....

My video card came with the full version of 3DMark Vantage... so i'm gonna load it up real quick and get back to you guys with the results. :-)

I'll be updating when I can!!

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acarzt replied on Sun, Dec 20 2009 1:19 AM

3DMark Vantage

Performance: P20756

Extreme: X9213

 

And that does it for my baseline tests.

Tomorrow I start tweaking :-)

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acarzt replied on Sun, Dec 20 2009 3:22 PM

Ok guys. For round 2 of my testing, I went through and disabled all non-Microsoft Services and Startup item that I wasn't using. I used services.msc to disable these services, and msconfig to disable the startup items and to help me identify unneeded services.

Services
Apple Mobile Device - Disabled
Bonjour - Disabled
LVCOMSer - Disabled (logitech)
Process Monitor - Disabled (logitech)
Ipod Service - Disabled

Startup Items
These will vary from person to perons, but I disabled anything that didn't say Microsoft next to it.

System booted faster after restart.

ATTO 332 MB/s Read  191 MB/s Write

PCmark 9556

3dMark P20,925; X9,227

From these changes alone, my drive performance increased by 10%!! Something was hampering my SSDs. I have a feeling I might be able to free up a bit more of that performance once I start disabling Microsoft Services. PCMark and 3Dmark both saw increases in performance, however it was only a small gain. Nothing like the 10% seen on the digital storm PC. But let's see what happens next....

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acarzt replied on Sun, Dec 20 2009 7:42 PM

I'm still messing arround with different configurations and settings etc. Right now i'm testing with Superfetch on and paging file off.... But here is what I have so far.

Services I disabled

Background Intelligent Transfer - Disabled
Computer Browser - Disabled
Diagnostic Policy - Disabled
Distributed Link Tracking - Disabled
Function Discovery Provider host -Disabled
IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules - Disabled
IP Helper - Disabled
IPsec Policy Agent - Disabled
Machine Debug Manager - Disabled
MPICH2 Process Manager(folding@home) - Disabled
Offline Files - Disabled
Ready Boost - Disabled
Remote Access Connection Manager - Disabled
Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service - Disabled
SSDP Discovery - Disabled
Tablet PC Input - Disabled
Telephony - Disabled
Webclient - Disabled
Windows Defender - Disabled
Windows Error Reporting - Disabled
Windows Image Acquisition - Disabled
Windows Search - Disabled
Windows Time - Disabled

 

Boot was slightly faster after restart.

ATTO Performance dropped slightly.

Turned Readyboost back on... No change. Turned it off.

Turned on Windows Search... No change Turned it off.

Disabled Drive Caching in Intel Matric Storage Console.

Read 340MB/s Write 194MB/s

After restart 480MB/s Read 142 MB/s write

Backup produced 300 read 160 write - Consistent

Turned off Superfetch. same results

SuperFetch Off, Drive Cache on

325 read, 184 write.

Backup run of 336 read, 194 write.

Superfetch off
PCmark: 9788
3DMark: P21,139; X9206

Superfetch on
PCMark: 9935(1st run); 9798; 9631
3DMark: 20792(1st run);

Disabling Hard Drive Data cash seemed to produce higher peak numbers, but down low with smaller files it wasn't doing so good so I turned it back on. Also... I noticed everytime on Restart my read speeds shoot up to almost 500MB/s in some case. A back up run always produces the numbers I see consistantly.... pretty odd...

I'll get back to you with more results soon :-)

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acarzt replied on Mon, Dec 21 2009 12:57 AM

well I went and disable the pagefile system, which caused my scores to drop to 9730.

I also tried disabling a few other media center related services. But it didn't make much of a difference.

I haven't been able to crack the 10k mark yet :-P still got 1 more thing to try.

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acarzt replied on Mon, Dec 21 2009 1:15 AM

Well I hit the 10k mark.

10,005! lol

But I had to change the appearance settings to performance mode. In my opinion, not worth it.

So all in all, without over clocking, I picked up 5% of a gain just disabling services, and 10% in disk performance.

I'm not sure what other changes I couldn't possibly make, but i'm done for now. If anyone else can come up with some other things that I can tweak and play around with, let me know!!

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You can turn off Index Service as well as your screensaver, if you use one. Screensavers were necessary with CRT monitors to prevent burn-in, but if you have an LCD monitor you can use the power options to turn off the display. If you don't use a wireless card you can probably safely disable the WLAN AutoConfig service. I would turn Defender back on, though, just to have that extra measure of security. I like your experiment, acarzt!

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digitaldd replied on Mon, Dec 21 2009 11:26 AM

When you get your tweaks set the way you want them you can use the Vista Services Optimizer to save the setup so you can just have a 1 click to set for gaming setup. I've been doing that with Win 7 and the tool.

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acarzt replied on Mon, Dec 21 2009 12:58 PM

yea, I turned indexing off.

Turning off the wireless causes problems with some other stuff. So i'll leave that one alone :-P

Even after disabling SO many services, the system still behaves the same. Haven't gotten any errors, or run into any problems yet.

The system boots much faster. I would get occasional hanging on boot. That's gone now.

I never use a screen saver :-P Just sometimes to see what the nvidia screen saver demos look like :-P

I'm gonna look into tweaking the registry next. See if I can find any info on things to change :-)

The registry don't scare me! :-D

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rapid1 replied on Thu, Jan 28 2010 4:32 PM

Hey try out this site http://www.tweakhound.com/vista/index.htm tweak hound has walk throughs  for XP Vista and 7. I have used his site for years he is very good insightful and top to bottom for tweaking as well as user types and levels. This is the most reliable and solid tweaking I have ever used I will say that for sure. Some or many of the things you  may have done. However; he finds stuff  new to me every version of Windows.

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caos420 replied on Thu, Jan 28 2010 10:16 PM

I too have used tweakhound's site for many years now and there really is no better tweaking guide on the net. The author Eric Vaughan is very knowlegable and has written many articles on the windows os and he knows about every possible tweak you can do to your pc.

goodluck let me know how it turns out.

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gibbersome replied on Thu, Jan 28 2010 10:50 PM

digitaldd:

When you get your tweaks set the way you want them you can use the Vista Services Optimizer to save the setup so you can just have a 1 click to set for gaming setup. I've been doing that with Win 7 and the tool.

That's a really neat little tool, thanks for the suggestion.

I've disabled most everything on Vista already with marked improvements. I've found that CCleaner's reg cleaner works really well too.

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acarzt replied on Thu, Jan 28 2010 11:06 PM

I went through the tweak hound stuff. Most of it was about customizing vista, which I've already known how to do for quite some time. I've already got my system set up how I like it :-)

The services were similar to what I did, but I think i removed more lol.

There was 1 or 2 things I wanted to try tho. I don't remember what they were, i'll have to go back through it again when i'm at my computer. (at work now)

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rapid1 replied on Fri, Jan 29 2010 2:38 AM

Yeah Ccleaner and defraggler are both defaults for me now I use them all the time. The Tweakhound guides are through and through the best windows tweaking especially from every avenue you can think of that I have seen. He gives full regedit tweaks for the experienced as well and all his tweaks are listed as per level of knowledge as well.

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Inspector replied on Fri, Jan 29 2010 2:40 AM

I checked out www.tweakhound.com :D, It has some good guides on there for people like me that know very little on things :D, waiting for windows 7 customizing guides :D

 

Hows your tweaking going?

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rapid1 replied on Sat, Jan 30 2010 2:43 AM

Hey theres windows 7 tweaking on the to he has guides for XP/Vista/and 7 you just have to go to the main page and hit the link or to the specific page directly.

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Inspector:

I checked out www.tweakhound.com :D, It has some good guides on there for people like me that know very little on things :D, waiting for windows 7 customizing guides :D

Here's the Windows 7 tweaking guide on tweakhound. Just scroll down for the links:

http://www.tweakhound.com/windows7/tweaking/index.html

 

Lifehacker has a great guide to Windows 7 (not really tweaking, just tricks and tips)

http://lifehacker.com/5386953/lifehackers-complete-guide-to-windows-7

 

 

I've realized the best Vista tweak I can do is to install Windows 7...

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rapid1 replied on Sun, Jan 31 2010 2:01 AM

" I've realized the best Vista tweak I can do is to install Windows 7... " isn't that the truth

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rapid1 replied on Sun, Jan 31 2010 2:09 AM

Hey acarzt have you tried out the site yet?

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rapid1 replied on Sun, Jan 31 2010 5:31 PM

Lol well hope you get the link Acarzt there are more tweaks, but not to many this guy has not found and tested for thier worthiness.

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Inspector replied on Sun, Jan 31 2010 5:36 PM

rapid1:

" I've realized the best Vista tweak I can do is to install Windows 7... " isn't that the truth

That is the best and only tweak i would ever need if i was running vista :D

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