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Drago Posted: Wed, Nov 19 2008 11:25 AM

Well finally AMD is set to release Deneb, and it has a name.  The first deneb chips will only have ddr2 IMC so they will only work on AM2+ boards, while the other denebs released latere will have both DDR2 and DDR3 IMC's allowing them to go into either an AM2+ board, or an AM3 board.  I definately like the fact that they have some AM2+ only denebs and one will be a Black Edition.  The backwards compatibility with the DDR2 IMC imo is a great move, expecially since there are no AM3 boards.  This lets AMD pop out chips that can already plug into existing mobos, then when the time comes, AM3 boards and DDR3.

Regarding the 940 oveclocks, my interpretation of the 4.0+ chart is that the grey area by 3.8 is the reasonable clock for air. 4.0+ is the reasonable clock for liquid. I think the slightly less than 3.2 clock for 9950 on the chart is reasonable and adds to credibility of 940 chart.



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Hey nice find. I wonder how they will perform clock for clock.

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Drago replied on Wed, Nov 19 2008 5:55 PM

Performance wise it is looking like a good 15% maybe more in certain areas.  Here is a graph comparing the new Dragon Platform vs Spider Platform.  The Spider platform was the 790FX/SB600 chipset, Phenom cpu and Radeon 3xxx series gfx.  The new Dragon Platform is a 790FX or(GX)/SB750, Phenom II cpu, and a Radeon 4xxx series gfx.


Here is the setups used in the graph above, the picture is kinda small so this is what it says.

Spider:  Phenom X4 9950, MSI K9A2 790FX, 4GB DDR2-800, Seagate 7200.10 500gb, Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1

Dragon: Phenom II X$ 940, Gigabyte GA-MA7900P-DSH4 790GX, 4GB DDR2-800, Seagate 7200.10 500gb, Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1

 

I would speculate that the spider platform is using a 3870, and the Dragon Platform is using a 4870x2 considering the fact that the gaming performance is so huge.  I wish they would have listed the vid cards used, ill have to go home and use gimp to blow up the pic and see if i can find anything, that and do some more digging.

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Yeah I don't care how good a cpu is its not boosting gaming 185%. Other than that looks like some good numbers.

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Drago replied on Thu, Nov 20 2008 12:58 AM

Bob, the chart is comparing the spider platform vs the dragon platform.  Obviously the 4xxx series gfx cards do make a big diff in gaming and what not, but the over all performance in other areas is looking real good.  If this stuff is remotely accurate, it looks like AMD will be able to compeet with intel again.  I really hope AMD continues to make their cpu's affordable just like they have their gfx cards.

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6GHz under LN2! Looks like they well at least be able to keep close to intel.

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this is good news, its been sad times in recent years AMD has really fallen off the pace compaired to intel. lets hope for a good war, becasue then we are the winers!

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I wouldn't mind eventually upgrading from my 2.4GHz Phenom to a 3.0GHz Phenom II that can OC well.  Though since it might be the end of the line for socket AM2+... we might see inflated prices on it.  The high end socket 939 CPUs were overpriced for a long time, for the same reason.  Hopefully the supply is high.

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