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I'm hoping that the front page winners will be noticed by a few readers. We have done a really great job. Give yourselves a handBig Smile

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warlord replied on Sat, Sep 6 2008 2:29 AM

bob_on_the_cob:

I'm hoping that the front page winners will be noticed by a few readers. 

 

Same here but i think we are gonna have to stay on them hard after that because realisticly some front page time is gonna help but it's up to us where it goes from there....but it should create some buzz after that we have to substane that buzz. That was why i wanted to get the conversasion started now so we can have a idea as to how to achieve those goals i set. Lets remember that for now us 19 active folders ARE the folding team so we need a game plan to expand our Folding power so we need to get creative as to how to reach these benchmarks. 

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I We have done a really great job. Give yourselves a handBig Smile

We really have made HUGE steps. 

By the way speaking of people who said they would fold what happened to you Marco? Whisper

You know someone else i happen to know just might have some idle cpu and gpu cycles on their hands  that we might be able to plead with to fold?  ( hint hint )  They call him SuperDave Wink

If just those 2 would join the fold based on what Marco  and SuperDave has would be another 14,000ppd  or 98,000 a week and on the month would be 392,000 points or a little over half of the sept points goal i set. So it makes that 1.7m very achievable Big Smile

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warlord replied on Mon, Sep 8 2008 1:03 AM

Well folks the hours are slipping away on this contest and i just wanted to point out what a geat job everyone has done. The team has really shown the potinetitial we all have as a competitive folding team having the limited #'s we have and putting out the ppd we have gotten together.  I'm proud of all of you and humbled by the contribution you have all made. My hopes are we can raise our #'s and the awareness for our beloved team. We have a great group and I truly apprecciate all of you for all your work and i feel i have made a few new friends during this contest. May we continue to raise the bar for our team 32407....Fold On HotHardware!!!!

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I am also very proud of everyone. At the beginning I though I had it in the bag. Everyone stepped up and put me in my place though. I think next month I will post a lot more WUs. My girlfriend is convinced that the folding clients are what broke her windows install.Angry So I think I have her almost convinced to using them again. I have my rig running 24/7 SMP and GPU2 now. It was down with the watercooling install and the whole drip fiasco. Soon I'll have the new rig folding. Davo shot me a email saying they would have it build in the next few days and send it out. So next month should be a good month for me. I think we can reach are goal. Everone has done a great job. Oh and you have for sure made one freind.Wink

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transam02 replied on Mon, Sep 8 2008 12:42 PM

Well I just lost a gpu client on my main rig. Until I can figure out the drivers errors. I am goin to shut it down for a lil while hopefully a new update will come out soon that way it will fix it. I have had 2 today alone.

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warlord replied on Mon, Sep 8 2008 6:39 PM

Thats unfortunate. transam. If you can post me some more info about the error i would be happy to research it.

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http://nvlddmkm.allofyourquestionsanswered.com/nvlddmkm-display-driver-stopped-responding-solution-to-the-problem/

 

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warlord replied on Mon, Sep 8 2008 7:53 PM

I will dig for and answer. I'm guessing stock clocks temps solid and all that. So does it only happen while folding? Good link there bob

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It has happened while folding and also has happened after gettin out of certain games as well. I have redownloaded the driver, I have even went back to an older one but it still happens. Also the card is oc. I have even ran on stock settings and still gives error.

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Have you tryed 177.98? Guru3D just added them today.

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transam02 replied on Mon, Sep 8 2008 11:30 PM

Is that a cuda driver or a nvidia driver. I have been using the cuda for my 8800 GTS.

 

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Cuda beta drivers

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transam02 replied on Mon, Sep 8 2008 11:33 PM

Thanks I will check into it.


Edit: Yea that was the first driver giving me problems.  Sad

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warlord replied on Tue, Sep 9 2008 6:13 PM

Well folks not long now till Zombiemaster gets his dues on the front page so  i just wanted to wish a big round of congrats to him and thank you all once again for a great contest. Fold On!!!!!!

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Congrats Zombiemaster! Keep up the great work.

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Thanks - think equal congrats go to all who are wringing the most they can out of the hardware at hand to get points up on the board . . . and the biggest congrats go to whoever’s motivating us all to do it!  Wink 

 **just noticed our Team 24hr Avg. just jumped above 50,000 - Fold On HH!!

 

  

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zombiemaster:

and the biggest congrats go to whoever’s motivating us all to do it!  Wink 

 

 

cough warlord cough

 

 

 

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transam02 replied on Wed, Sep 10 2008 9:26 AM

Congrats Zombie !!  Also congrats to the rest of the team.

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Dave_HH replied on Wed, Sep 10 2008 10:09 AM

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Cuda beta drivers

 

Gents, I've had to stop working with the GPU client as it causes serious crash issues with my GF GTX 280.  Not sure what's up but it might even be heat related.   Tongue Tied

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Gents, I've had to stop working with the GPU client as it causes serious crash issues with my GF GTX 280.  Not sure what's up but it might even be heat related.   Tongue Tied

Sorry to hear it. I had to turn my fan on my 8800gts up a bit because it was quite warm, but hey I just got my girlfriend running the SMP and GPU2 so were still just were we left off.

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warlord replied on Wed, Sep 10 2008 5:00 PM

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Dave_HH:

Gents, I've had to stop working with the GPU client as it causes serious crash issues with my GF GTX 280.  Not sure what's up but it might even be heat related.   Tongue Tied

Sorry to hear it. I had to turn my fan on my 8800gts up a bit because it was quite warm, but hey I just got my girlfriend running the SMP and GPU2 so were still just were we left off.

Sorry to hear Davo and great job bob jumping on that and covering the mans points...now thats team work there!!!!!Yes

 

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bob_on_the_cob:

Cuda beta drivers

 

Gents, I've had to stop working with the GPU client as it causes serious crash issues with my GF GTX 280.  Not sure what's up but it might even be heat related.   Tongue Tied

Sorry to hear it too Davo - not sure if I have info that might help, but here’s what I can think of:  

Don’t remember any GPU crashes (black screens, instead of blue) I’ve gotten from drivers or the FAH clients; right now I’ve got the GeForce 177.93 (beta) driver with PhysX installed (when upgrading, uninstalled from Vista and used Driver Sweeper to clean).  And for the GPU2 client I have the Vista console 6.20r2 beta installed on the c:/ root instead of in a user directory like the SMP.  

I’ve been folding with the GTX 280 at 704/1525/1219 running 100% fanspeed (it’s stable at 80% though too) with temps around 60C.  

When playing with the card I haven’t had any GPU crashes when just running the GPU2 client alone - when I’ve pushed the OC or the heat too far, the ppd just drop as the GPU throttles back.  Have had some black screens when gaming at the same time though depending on the game; Team Fortress 2 needs the clock dropped to 648, Dwarf Fortress needs the SMP off, and Spore doesn’t seem to play nice with any of the clients.  

With my GTX 260 though, low power was giving me a lot of black screens - the GPU2 client seems to be able to pull the max power of cards (183W for the 260 and 236W for the 280); maybe doublecheck the amps on each rail and which rail(s) the 8pin and 6pin for the 280 are pulling from?  

If there’s something else you think it might be, I can try to test it for you

 

  

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FAHmon is saying I am getting 5893ppd. That's without the 9600gt overclocked. I'll OC that tonight or tomorrow.

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an OC'ed GPU is a happy GPU!  Big Smile  

 

  

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Gents, I've had to stop working with the GPU client as it causes serious crash issues with my GF GTX 280.  Not sure what's up but it might even be heat related.   Tongue Tied

 

Davo – I’ve been following a thread on the F@H Support Forum that might relate to your GPU crashes - 

They began issuing new GPU work units this week (5508-5513 & 5017-5022) that are much larger proteins that aren’t folding as well on nVidia cards. They’re taking about twice as long to fold and making the cards work a lot harder. If you check FAHmon they’re the 430 pointers vs. the 480s. 

There are several issues with the WUs that the Pande Group and nVidia are working on.  At first there were a lot of EUEs, but they’ve made adjustments that have reduced those.  One of the biggest problems though is the additional power draw and heat produced is causing a lot of GPU crashes - especially for OC’ed cards.  nVidia is working to optimize the CUDA code to better handle the bigger WUs and reduce the card workload.  The average decrease in ppd has been about 26%, but they think they can reduce that by about half.  

For right now, the recommendation is to take off OC profiles but keep the fan settings high for GPU folding on the nVidia cards.  

(so in this case an OC'ed GPU isn't a happy folder)

I had my GTX 260 blackscreen on the new WUs and thought this might have been behind your crashes too . . . 

- might want to give it another shot Smile 

 

  

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I noticed the new work units. Never put two and two together, but I had to move my fan speed up to 80% this week as well. Never had a problem, just noticed my 8800 was warmer than usual.

On the bright side I have a new high 24hour point record of 8,280! up from about 3,000!

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warlord replied on Fri, Sep 12 2008 11:29 PM

I noticed the drop in ppd but hadn't the time to read up yet. Hey Davo whens the front page action happening on the folding contest?

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Congrats on the point record!  - saw you got the 200,000 milestone too Beer 

  

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And CONGRATS Warlord:

2,000,000!!!    Beer Beer Beer 

thats some serious folding!

  

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zombiemaster:

Congrats on the point record!  - saw you got the 200,000 milestone too Beer 

 

Thanks for the congrats! I'm trying to catch up to transam now and when I get my new rig you and warlord(at least in PPD.) I will drop out later this week for the most part as I rip apart my current rig and Jens rig and bench my new one, but by the end of the month I should be posting up there with you guys.

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Dave_HH replied on Fri, Sep 12 2008 11:51 PM

Makes sense for sure, Zombie.  That's essentially what has been happening to me.  I've turned down GPU clocks and turned up fans but it stinks.  NVIDIA better get their act together.

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Dave_HH:

NVIDIA better get their act together.

I think the GPU2 client is still a little to wet behind the ears. Nvidia cruches some numbers,but overheats and ATI much less points. I think it just needs some more tweaking.

 

 

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warlord replied on Sat, Sep 13 2008 12:11 AM

Thanks on the notice of the 2million points. Its taken 4 yrs

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warlord:

Thanks on the notice of the 2million points. Its taken 4 yrs

Ah you spoiled it I was working on it's own thread.

 

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Dave_HH:

NVIDIA better get their act together.

I think the GPU2 client is still a little to wet behind the ears. Nvidia cruches some numbers,but overheats and ATI much less points. I think it just needs some more tweaking.

FAH's saying that GPUs are able to handle larger simulations than CPUs that are going to be much more valuable to the research - as they increase the size of the WUs though, they think the ppd differences between the ATI and nVidia cards are probably going start to even out due to the different architectures of the GPUs (nVidia had a big ppd advantage over ATI on the smaller proteins).  

Think your in luck Bob!

  

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ryan92084 replied on Sun, Sep 14 2008 11:11 PM

 i know my 4870 crawls on the sub 200 point value WU's but chews right through the 500+ valued ones

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 i know my 4870 crawls on the sub 200 point value WU's but chews right through the 500+ valued ones

They're saying on the on the ATI FAH board that the larger WUs for the ATIs (4772-4747, 1254 atoms) are folding less cpu limited - are you seeing a ppd jump too?  

 

edit:  I'm seeing reports of 4000+ ppd on 4870s with the new WUs  Smile 

  

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ryan92084 replied on Mon, Sep 15 2008 12:36 PM

 don't think i've seen any above 4772, but i'll keep a watch for them.  the ones around 4743 (the 548 pointers) put my gpu at ~3300 ppd

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ryan92084:

 don't think i've seen any above 4772, but i'll keep a watch for them.  the ones around 4743 (the 548 pointers) put my gpu at ~3300 ppd

I'll have my 4870s soon so I'm interested to see you you guys getting these points. My 8800gts gets about 4000 a day. Figured the 4800s would be getting better points.

 

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