But sometimes it is.
Right so for the safety and protection of those involved all names and companies have been renamed to protect them... this is actually a HUGE LIE, nothing has been modified cause everything is jacked up!!

So the story starts out with me buying and building my almost dream PC (my dream PC would have had 2 "Duo 2 Core" 3.8GHz processors but I didn't really deem it necessary to throw out the extra cash) but anywa, part of my dream PC was also a rocking liquid cooling kit.  Now that I did throw the money out for, infact about $270 USD for it infact.  Now the CEO (John Lyon) of Cool-IT Systems himself told me it would manage a Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHz processor (641 Model), the receptionist at the company told me it would, John the Tech Support guy told me it would... it didn't... it leaked on my ATI Radeon X1950 XTX Graphics Card (at the time it was thee best GPU and cost me $475 - I had gotten a coupon for it  :D ). So I freaked out and sent it to them for repairs, John Lyon told me their liquid in the kits had frozen in the warehouse... I believed him, got the kit back... it leaked again, except this time a LOT worse, half of the card was covered with their pretty blue liquid that made me scream like a blonde in a horror film.  It also leaked on my Creative Labs SOund Blaster X-Fi Fatality Sound Card, my Western Digital Raptor-X 150GB hard drive and 1 drop on my Intel D975 XBX 2 Motherboard, and of course all over the bottom of the case.  The system runs ok minus the fact that I get a slow down on certain areas of "Hitman: Blood Money" and it took me a long time to figure out for a hundred percent certainty if it was infact the spill or the drivers or the game etc. (with PC software it is always something, is it not?).
So what is my point to all this you ask??... Good question.  My point is that after this I did some studying and as it turns out a $24.00 USD copper processor heat sink, with 80mm fan at the front of the case and a 120mm fan at the read of the case, cools almsot twice as well as their FreeZone liquid cooling kit. On top of that it won't LITTERALLY fall apart (the tube MELTED and the little metal sign FELL OFF!! - while playing Hitman: Blood Money) and the fans won't ever leak blue stuff all over your beautiful and might I add EXPENSIVE PC!!

sorry to hear about your loss. 

There is always hicups with water cooling. You got two superate units and both did the same thing. Sorry man but that seems like user error to me.

FlyinBrian:

There is always hicups with water cooling. You got two superate units and both did the same thing. Sorry man but that seems like user error to me.

Got a refund from the CEO actually... for a long time I had held off on doing this cause he seemed genuinely nice and all.  But like the more I think about it the more it eats at me... because everytime I play Hitman: Blood Money it slows down when I go on a killing spree and the bodies pile up in a room (which previously it hadn't).

And you could say it was my fault that THEIR kit leaked twice... the second time being after they FIXED IT.  Ooooooooor you could say it was their fault for not testing their own product sufficiantly.  I keep getting from "certain people" on these forums that it was my fault the kit leaked.  I did the research, I checked the liquid they had in the kit, I ran the system for 2 hours playing Hitman with the case open to make sure it didn't leak.  It leaked anyway AND there was sufficiant air flow with the case closed (front fan, side fan and the rear fan that came with the kit).  So yeah I completely agree with you, when you say it was "user error" I mean I should have had the PC in a the freezer instead of the computer drawer and I really shouldn't have been playing games on it like some people... instead I should have only used it for MS word so that way the processor wouldn't have gotten HOT.

 Sorry to say but do you even know what the FreeZone cooling Kit is?  It's a prebuilt liquid cooling kit that every single person at the company said would MOST DEFINETELY COOL AN INTEL P4 3.2 GHZ PROCESSOR.  So, yeah,  Icompletely see how it is "user error"... infact the drunker I get the more that makes sense!!

And thanks for your input ice_73... knowing I'm not alone does actually make me feel a little better about this, also a little more annoyed that they're doing this to a bunch of people.

 Water cooling inst always what it hyped up to be.Good thing you got a refund.I find Danger Den is a good company to buy from.

X1950XTXvengence:

Got a refund from the CEO actually... for a long time I had held off on doing this cause he seemed genuinely nice and all.  But like the more I think about it the more it eats at me... because everytime I play Hitman: Blood Money it slows down when I go on a killing spree and the bodies pile up in a room (which previously it hadn't).

And you could say it was my fault that THEIR kit leaked twice... the second time being after they FIXED IT.  Ooooooooor you could say it was their fault for not testing their own product sufficiantly.  I keep getting from "certain people" on these forums that it was my fault the kit leaked.  I did the research, I checked the liquid they had in the kit, I ran the system for 2 hours playing Hitman with the case open to make sure it didn't leak.  It leaked anyway AND there was sufficiant air flow with the case closed (front fan, side fan and the rear fan that came with the kit).  So yeah I completely agree with you, when you say it was "user error" I mean I should have had the PC in a the freezer instead of the computer drawer and I really shouldn't have been playing games on it like some people... instead I should have only used it for MS word so that way the processor wouldn't have gotten HOT.

 Sorry to say but do you even know what the FreeZone cooling Kit is?  It's a prebuilt liquid cooling kit that every single person at the company said would MOST DEFINETELY COOL AN INTEL P4 3.2 GHZ PROCESSOR.  So, yeah,  Icompletely see how it is "user error"... infact the drunker I get the more that makes sense!!

And thanks for your input ice_73... knowing I'm not alone does actually make me feel a little better about this, also a little more annoyed that they're doing this to a bunch of people.

 First, Intel P4 3.2Ghz is an older architecture than an Intel Core 2 Duo.  The Core 2 Duo has a higher thermal load, so the fact it supports P4 3.2Ghz doesn't mean it will handle a chip with more cores and thus more heat.

Secondly, you tested the kit, with your computer running for 2 hours?  So the kit was fully rigged up and mounted on the CPU?  That's user error I am afraid, as any kit (prebuilt or DIY) should be tested by a user completely out of the case away from parts in a big bucket.  That's to check for leaks and saves all your parts in the case of a leak.

 Also, heat doesn't make a watercooling kit leak.  The leak is due to an inproper seal and the water pressure from the pump will force the water through the seal.  So it would of leaked without your PC giving it loads of heat.

Where Cool-IT could be at fault is as you say, improper testing.  However, all manufacturing processes have flaws, hence why it likely leaked the first time as a bad egg slipped through.  However the fact it's leaked twice makes me wonder if a) The repairs were flawed and there was something bigger causing the problem not noticed or b) you made a mistake in installation and possibly kinked a tube too much or caught the tubing on the case causing a seal to fail.

However I must admit, I've never heard anything bad said about their products before and every usage of them before was fine, so you must of just been unlucky.

Wow.  That's a shame bro.  Personally I'd never touch water cooling unless it was preinstalled by someone else who is very knowledgable.  I've never had anything watercooled so I cannot relate, but any time something expensive breaks and causes other problems too is bad news bears. 

I seriously wanted to WC my current rig...but then i thought about the dangers and said forget it. It looks cool and all, but i can get very good cooling with my Zalman fan so i think i'll stick to that. : ) 

I've been water cooling my rigs since before I first joined this site.  If you take the time to properly test it before installing it in your case, it's not dangerous, since you'll catch a leak before it gets all over your expensive components.  Why didn't you test it outside your case before you installed everything?  At the very least, you should plug it into the power supply and jumper it so that it gets juice and starts up before you connect it to anything.  That way there is no way for it to mess up anything while your testing it. 

Side note:  Congrates on the mod Matrix. 

Thread Hijack FTW! Thanks Zen. Been one for a little bit but I got busy and didn't have much time on the forums. Check out that post count going up...i'm back for the long haul! : )

 i just want to post my experience with coolit. for the few days i had it, its been bitter-sweet the temps are good but the fan stopped 3x (i dont know why...... but i opened up the case and fiddled with connections and it worked again) the major problem is the loudness. however with my short time with it its pretty good. id say the fan needs to be a better one though. although problems with wc is rare it can still happen, just testing for leaks wont help!!! a pump can die in the middle of crysis and then bam! overheated proc and vid card (very likely perm. damaged) coolit seems to have gotten their act together afaik but they should consider redoing their fan O_O

I haven't water-cooled, I wouldn't recommend to anybody unless they were an enthusiast the same goes for over-clocking. I'm sorry to hear about your computer, these things aren't fun no matter whose to blame. I have to say interesting thread, I was expecting something different from the thread title.

-Dev 

X1950XTXvengence Im sorry to hear about you nightmare.Ive got a watercool kit Ive had for a while but havent used it in years so naturally I now would go with the latest and the greatest.But watercooling is a risk regardless.For right now Im going to stay with air cooling! Its always a thrill to get a better clock but damn sure will hurt you feelings if you hose you system. Hope everything works out for you.

I checked it over and there were no leaks, secondly the core 2 duos generates less heat than the P4, this fact has been tested and is stated repeated by Intel and everyone else on the planet, thirdly it still leaked after getting REPAIRED (with a 3-day $94 USD shipping cost with import tax might I add) - which takes it out of USER ERROR.  Fourthly - if you have to test something as if it is a science experiment doesn't that mean it was made by a bunch of incompetant reatards or at the very least people who have no idea of what they are doing?

Also the tub TORE completely off and the metal plate that was held on by the double sided tape... fell off... the more I go over this the more it seemed like a weekend project still in progress.  So you tell me then, is it a good idea to use something that has to be tested and is known for leaking and destroying stuff?  My answer is, that idea is second only to jumping out of flying rocket ships.