When AMD released the Radeon HD 2900 XT in May of last year, we were left with a bitter taste in our mouths. Not because the product was all that bad, but because it seemed AMD was content to leave NVIDIA uncontested at the high-end of the 3D graphics card market. If you remember, when the Radeon HD 2900 XT launched AMD had targeted the mid-range GeForce 8800 GTS, and not NVIDIA’s high-end 8800 GTX or Ultra. It seemed as if AMD just didn’t want to be in the fight for 3D graphics supremacy any longer and enthusiasts like yourselves, who seek nothing but the highest performing products, were left with only a single option.
Thankfully things have changed in the last few months. After the R600 shipped, AMD’s engineers went right back to work. And in November AMD released the Radeon HD 3800 series of products, which were based on an updated GPU design that performed much like the R600, but with more moderate power and thermal characteristics. The new GPU, formerly codenamed RV670, still wasn’t quite as fast as NVIDIA’s higher-end offerings, but its low power profile gave AMD the ability to engineer the product we’ll be showcasing here today, the Radeon HD 3870 X2.
The Radeon HD 3870 X2 was codenamed R680 throughout its development. Although that codename implies the card is powered by a new GPU, it is not. The Radeon HD 3870 X2 is instead powered by a pair of RV670 GPUs linked together on a single PCB by a PCI Express fan-out switch. In essence, the Radeon HD 3870 X2 is “CrossFire on a card”. Take a look...
Very nice, If the price is right.. I might just pick this one up.
I appreciate the HH Review. Between Anandtech and Kyle over at Hardocp flaming about which review method is better It makes me all more appreciative for the HH reviews. I think Kyle has a point in some ways about caned benchmarks but I think its a easy work around by creating your own timedemos, like you guys did with quake wars. The subjective review is just too dependant on the person and not the actual data and you cant repeat it exactly accross the system.
Pretty terrible review. How about doing a proper comparison of the cards? It was good showing the performance of the 3700 series and Crossfire mode to the X2 card... but why only show the nVidia single card scores? It'd be a better comparison to put the SLI scores in there. Take the 8800GTX and the 8800GT 512MB in SLI mode as a comparison... as I highly doubt that the X2 comes close to either one in scores.
I agree with you Flyin. I think that HotHardware's approach to benchmarking is the right way to go. The creation of their own time demo addresses the canned benchmark concern, while at the same time giving you a real world experience.
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sniperdoc:Pretty terrible review. How about doing a proper comparison of the cards? It was good showing the performance of the 3700 series and Crossfire mode to the X2 card... but why only show the nVidia single card scores? It'd be a better comparison to put the SLI scores in there. Take the 8800GTX and the 8800GT 512MB in SLI mode as a comparison... as I highly doubt that the X2 comes close to either one in scores.
What I don't get is why you would use two different boards/chipsets when it was completely unnecessary. This is not good testing methodology and seems to hint at you having performed SLI benchmarks as well but then simply leaving those results out since AMD apparently rubs you guys the right way.
Yeah that's right, GeForce cards will run on crossfire boards, believe it or not.
Also, perhaps I overlooked this but I didn't see anywhere whether or not a crossfire board is required to run this card.
I guess there's a good reason I've never heard of hothardware.com before today. Wow, your forums suck too.. flash-based? bleh...
Hello general assumptions.. give me a break. They tested a single card against another single card.. They are one of the few sites that included standard crossfire numbers as well.. Why would they include sli when that is way out of the price of this X2 ? And on top of that you can see it in relation to the GTX which is basically the same price. Next time you post here make sure you read the review first because you make it sound like their being biased which youd know isnt true if you took the time to read.
They used two boards because those are the boards with "official" support for their technologies SLI and crossfire respectively. The majority of people are not gona buy a crossfire intel board and stick a GTX in it and vice versa. When you fellas grow up, ya'll come back now.
FlyinBrian:They used two boards because those are the boards with "official" support for their technologies SLI and crossfire respectively. The majority of people are not gona buy a crossfire intel board and stick a GTX in it and vice versa. When you fellas grow up, ya'll come back now.
But they didn't do SLI benchmarks so using two boards was a mistake. All it did is add another unnecessary variable into the equation. Your reasoning lacks reason Brian. FAIL.
The fact is that 680i boards are a rip-off compared to P35 boards and the P35s also overclock a bit better. Hence myself and many others who've done their research are running 8800-series cards on crossfire-capable boards, because that's where the best bang per buck is at the moment. Yeah, guess what, PCI-E is a standard so they are interchangeable until you want to run crossfire or SLI.
Way to be a fanboy though.
I am really too old to be arguing about something as trivial as a pc component.. However I will explain it for you once again.. If your going to build around a Nvidia GTX would it not make sense to use a Nforce board so that one day you can put in another GTX later ? They didnt test SLI because there was no point, given the performance vs a single GTX you can clearly see that if SLI would of won. But then you are far outside of the price/performance of the single 3870x2 solution. I once again reccomend for you to read the review and not just flip through the graphs.
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Davo do you guys still have the 3870x2 around ? If so, it would be great to see a few more games added to the review.
One Unreal 3 game would be nice, I agree.
Sorry I keep asking questions here but I am really interested in this product because my next build I am finally going to be done with Nforce boards (thank God) and I was curious what model of the regular 3870 was being used. The reason I ask is I was thinking of picking up two of the His radeon 3870 turbo models and using them in crossfire mode. They are factory overclocked to 850 mhz and run gddr4 at 2.38 gh. So with that In mind I am thinking that combination of overclock, memory bandwidth, and crossfire should be a high performance monster.. what do you think ?
I'm sure it would be plenty powerful, but why not get 1 3870 X2 and perhaps another 1 at a later date for crossfire... ahh to have the power of 4 GPUs under the hood!!!
This is very likely the route I'll be going this year.
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