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Case In Point: Navigating The Upgrade Minefield

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Intel now has three different sockets for their desktop CPU platforms. Whether you’re building a new system, or looking to upgrade an older system, making the right choices will save you some pain and money down the road. If you’re committed to using Intel CPUs – and Intel is the current performance leader – then picking through the socket options is no easy exercise. Let’s look at what’s available, and the pros and cons of each.

LGA 775
The LGA 775 socket appeared in November, 2004. Until recently, LGA 775 has been the mainstay of the Intel product line, even after the LGA 1366 Nehalem CPUs shipped last year. While Core i7 took the performance crown, Core 2 CPUs using LGA 775 continued to be Intel’s mainstay.

Now that the
LGA 1156 motherboards using the P55 chipset have shipped, it’s likely that LGA 775 will gradually be phased out. But that phase-out will likely take a long time. If you look at Intel’s price list, there are still over 30 CPUs being sold that require LGA 775.

As an example, let’s say you have a system currently running a Core 2 Duo E7600. It’s got 3MB of L2 cache and runs at 3.06GHz. It’s easy to swap in a Q9650, which is currently around $320-$330. That swap will get you a quad core CPU with over quadruple the shared L2 cache that still runs at 3GHz. That’s a big performance gain for much less than the cost of a new motherboard, a new CPU and possibly new memory.

So if you’re running LGA 775, and your budget is tight, consider staying with that socket for the time being. By the time you really want to upgrade to one of Intel’s more current platforms, that cost of upgrading will probably be lower than it is today.


Intel's LGA775 Socket for Pentium, Celeron, and Core 2 CPUs
 

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     This is a good article, and many of the points are very relevant. However; I am currently in this situation, I have a neighbor who wants a PC for photography work. I have several systems lined up on Newegg in wish lists. I am concerned about the sata 6 USB 3 issue, but not to a considerable level I guess. This means I would like to give him that ability from the build stage, but as the article pointed out it is not critical (I can add the in pci-X slots later if needed).

     The thing largely on these two components or capabilities for me on a system for photo work is SATA3. Having this on board specifically for this type of system seems to me a good idea. Plus adding a USB3 card to a PCI-x slot is ok, but when you’re talking about HD tech it is going to be around for probably at least the next 5 years. One issue I have with storage is SSD. Yes I know they are considerably faster, but I see it as a technology with a brick wall coming up rather soon (a year to a year and a half). This is because it has been stated by Intel when talking about their new mem tech, which would apply to these devices as well. When nand hit 22nm that about as far as it can go. Seeing as they just hit 32nm, and they run their research in the tick toc way I see two more upgrades for SSD and they will end because they cannot go any further.

     This is somewhat of an issue so I will most likely set his PC up with 3 hard drives in a raid 5 configuration. The next issue is this; CPU choice especially right now is hard. I could of course go with AM3 and 8 gigs of memory. For about a hundred more I can go for 1156, then for roughly the same price I can go with 1366 with 6 gigs of memory. I am thinking in most cases especially photo editing and media manipulation the 1366/920 is going to perform about the same as an 1156/860 with the memory differences.

     Then I also want to build a system with an upgrade path the dual channel and triple channel difference for me on the uses he requires seems to be a positive, the upgrade path for the two Intel chipsets seems to me to also be the most confusing on the 1156 side of things as it is supposed to accept the Sandy Bridge path. Then the 1366 is supposed to accept the Gulftown which I would think is the best path or socket for the future. Also as I look at the AMD side of things AM3 is supposed to accept Bulldozer as well automatically. So I can build him a great system today, but what will it's future be say 1.5-2 years down the road will I be able to drop in the next CPU, and which of those CPU's is the best choice? I am thinking 1366, but am stuck on this choice all three paths with all the same components (GPU, Ram, and HD throughput and storage amount) are within 100 bucks up or down. The AMD Phenom is of course the lowest prices with 8 gigs, the 1156/860 is next for about 75 more, and the 1366 is about a hundred more with the tri channel config’s at 6 gigs.

Which do I choose looking at the future for him and his usage pattern? I am really leaning toward 1366, but am quite unsure of the future between these 3 sockets!

 

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If you're setting this up for PhotoShop, you should rethink your HD configuration (3 HD in Raid 5):

HD1 -  Fastest drive for OS and programs ( 2 SSD in Raid 0)

HD2 - Scratch disk

HD3 - Storage, largest drive sets you can afford ( 2 in Raid 2 or 4 in Raid 10)

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Whoops, I meant 2 drives in Raid 1 for HD3

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Good read. The way I do it is to get the best that I can afford with the funds available. This is a far as I can go towards future proofing.

Future Proofing in today's world of technical advances is probably not possible anyway at the rate these advances keep occurring. You need an uninterrupted cash stream to keep up these days, or maybe find a way to get manufacturers to consistently send you new things to test out and review. (wink!)

So a look at the budget is first in the process for me, then I get the best I can by shopping around. It usually works out just fine. My older equipment works well for use in Linux Boxes too.

 

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Hey Neil, how's that new rig of yours doing? :)

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It's slicker than Snake Snot.

Like a Fire In a Match Factory!

It's profound!

It's smooth,...like Southern Comfort,.............

It's the best computer that I've ever had.

 

Thanks!

 

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Great article. It's true that at this point technology will just keep increasing exponentially. Having a system that can keep up with the latest tech will become increasingly more difficult. I think future proofing will be at its best right now, but come 10 years I believe that everyone will have a hard time keeping up. If anyone does decide to upgrade their computer, and they have an LGA 775 socket, I'd reccomend saving up some extra cash and upgrading to the LGA 1366 sockets instead. That's at least what I plan on doing. 

I think the best strategy to keeping your computer hardware up to date is saving some money every month and making a change at the critical level...to the point where you can begin saving again. It's a rinse and repeat sort of thing. 

 

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The bright side of this upgrade minefield is the constant innovation and competition unseen in areas such as the console market

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Thanks HKo45, I have thought about other implementations. However I also have a 1500 dollar budget, and I need a high end gpu display, keyboard, mouse, printer and everything else. So SSD is not a possibility. I have also thought about 2 in raid1 for OS and apps, with a large drive for storage. I think that a 3 500-1000 GB drives in raid 5 gives me better performance than raid1, and more safety in the functionality of raid5. If I do raid0 it is fast, but I don't want it to go out in 6-12 ad you know if you loose a raid0 array you have nothing left. I have definitely consider the jbod thing as well I just  think raid 5 with 3 drives gives me the best outcome. This computer is going to blow away anything he has ever used anyway. So the performance hit he takes with raid 5 will not be noticed anyways.

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For PhotoShop, your first priority is to get as much ram as you can get (4GB min). Yesterday, when running PhotoShop CS4 on my laptop (4GB), I got a message that it could not do a blend because I had insufficient ram. As you scale back your GPU (for budget's sake), just make sure it can run OpenGL. On the topic of disks: I like to put only my OS and all programs on the C drive (no data) because I can then use an image backup (Acronis) simply on that drive--at which point I care less about safety than speed. My data resides on another drive where I can use whatever backup process I want. In the case of my laptop, I have my data backed up both on an NAS drive and a usb drive. Right now I'm limited to a laptop (Dell Precision M6400 w/ 2 22" monitors) because I'm hoping to move soon so I'm planning to get my dream PhotoShop system after the move.

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