ATI Radeon HD 3870 and 3850: 55nm RV670

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As we’ve already mentioned, the RV670 GPU borrows heavily from the R600 that came before it.  The core technology in each GPU architecture is fundamentally very similar.  But with the RV670, AMD has made a number of changes designed to boost performance in certain areas as well as enhance power efficiency.  We covered the R600 architecture in-depth in our Radeon 2900 XT launch article, so we won’t go in-depth again here, but we do want to point out some pertinent information.  What we have for you below are a number of slides taken from an AMD presentation explaining the key benefits of the RV670 GPU and the products built around it – the Radeon HD 3870 and Radeon HD 3850.


 
  

  
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One of the RV670’s stand-out features is full support for DirectX 10.1.  A few weeks back, news broke that Microsoft would be releasing DX10.1 with Vista SP1 in early 2008, and that the current generation of DX10 GPUs would not fully support the new features brought forth with the update.  The merits of the new features inherent to the DX10.1 update are still in question, but AMD decided to support them in hardware anyway.

As for the fundamental blocks inside the GPU, RV670 doesn’t differ very much from R600.  The RV670 still has 320 stream processing units, 16 texture units, and 16 ROPs.  The RV670, however, does away with the 1024-bit internal ring-bus memory controller in favor of a 512-bit variant.  And its memory interface has also been pared down from 512-bits to 256-bit.  From high-level perspective, these changes sound-like downgrades, but other tweaks to the GPU negate a massive loss of internal and external bandwidth.  While the R600 uses 8, 64-bit memory channels, the RV670 doesn’t simply use 4, 64-bit channels.  Instead the new GPU uses 8, 32-bit channels to improve the granularity of the data transfer, which in turn improves relative efficiency of the RV670’s memory bus.  There have also been other tweaks, such as improved memory arbitration logic and higher memory clocks on HD 3870 in particular.  And as you’ll see a little later, the net performance profile between R600 and RV670 is very competitive.

Overall improvements have also been made with RV670. Since the Radeon HD 2900 XT was out in the wild before RV670 was back from the fab, AMD has time to better evaluate the performance characteristics of the R600 and the bottlenecks of the architecture.  Much of what the company learned from this allowed AMD to tweak the RV670’s design in order to minimize the bottlenecks as much as possible.  Another area of focus with the RV670 was improving the handling of latency bound tasks to schedule work more effectively. The net result of the improvements is that despite halving the memory-bus width, the RV670 is sometimes faster than HD 2900.



  

  
CrossFireX - When Two Video Cards Just Won't Do



Other changes to the RV670 include a more advanced manufacturing process, the introduction of PowerPlay on the desktop, and support for PCI Express 2.0 and CrossFireX.  Moving to TSMC’s advanced 55nm manufacturing process to build the 666M transistor RV670 results in nearly twice the transistor density and a much smaller die than R600.  In fact, the RV670 is less than half the size of the R600 192mm2 versus 408mm2.

The new GPU also takes advantage of ATI’s PowerPlay technology which down-clocks or disables parts of the GPU when not in use, or when maximum performance is not necessary. The combination of PowerPlay and the new manufacturing process drastically reduces the RV670’s power requirements, especially in comparison to the R600.

The RV670 also supports the PCI Express 2.0 standard which doubles the bandwidth of the GPU’s serial link interface when used with a compatible chipset.  With CrossFireX, users are able to link two, three, or even four cards together to increase performance.  To utilize three and four card CrossFireX configuration, you’ll need a motherboard with the correct slot configuration and proper drivers.  Motherboards with the necessary PEG slots are already available.  The drivers, however, won’t arrive until later this year or early in 2008.

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 Hi All,

 

Great review on both cards. It looks as though AMD/ATI is back in the Graphics card game again. That's great for us Gamers because now Price Wars! 

I do have a question, has AMD/ATI abandoned the High End Graphics card arena? 

 

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Definitely not, at least according to our sources. The first half of 08 should bring new high-end toys from both sides of the Graphics pond!

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 Holy power consumption Batman!! It is definately a more utility bill friendly card than the 2900 (consuming about half its idle and load power) and the performance output really isn't bad at all -- as I would almost input that the 2900's was when compared to the 8xxx series especially with power consumption and price comparison was taken into the mix..

It's just too bad it took ATI more than a year to semi-catch up with nVidia's 8 series but hopefully they can stay on the ball eh? Exciting exciting.

 

BTW: if you admins are sick of these taking up space in the labs I can probably take them off your hands -- if you're lucky I mean Big Smile 

 

EDIT: Just also noticed the 8870s are quite a bit cheaper than the 8800GT's also .... what to do, what to do.... 

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Good to see DAMMIT is getting competitive again in the GPU market. They still need to get their high end parts up there though. Even though where the bulk of sales occurs is mainstream not having those high end parts affects people's purchasing decisions. People want to go with the company that looks like they are superior on all fronts. Hopefully their next GPU can actually rival Nvidia's high end. Image is important.

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 Well getting a 55nm process down for the GPU is pretty sweet in itself -- more space and less heat :) :) Too bad AMD isn't following this up with 55nm CPU  eh? ;)

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