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Nokia Introduces C3, C6 And E5 Messaging Phones For Overseas Markets

Nokia Introduces C3, C6 And E5 Messaging Phones For Overseas Markets

As we saw with the launch of Microsoft's Kin One and Kin Two, it's not always about the smartphone. There are plenty of other consumers out there who don't need an advanced mobile phone, and having one that makes calls, keeps track of a few contacts and sends the occasional SMS is good enough. Nokia knows that better than anyone, with their phones still dominating the worldwide market share pictures thanks to their ability to get loads of low-end phones into developing nations.

Today, the company introduced three new handsets: the C3, C6, and E5. All were designed to put better messaging and social networking tools in the hands of more people around the world, and they each feature a full QWERTY keyboard and allow for access to e-mail, IM, and social networks. Sounds pretty fancy for a low-end device!



The Nokia C3 is the first device to bring a full QWERTY keyboard to the world's most popular mobile phone platform in terms of market share (S40), and it also brings social networking right to the home screen. Updating your Facebook and Twitter account is a breeze, and at around 90 Euros without any carrier subsidization, it's fairly affordable. It also ships with Ovi Mail and Ovi Chat, not to mention Wi-Fi, a 2MP camera, 2.4" display and a colorful shell (white, grey and pink are available).

The C6 is a Symbian-based phone with a 3.2" screen, a penchant for accessing the Web, a camera with Autofocus and even built-in navigation; that one will cost around 220 Euros before taxes and subsidies. The E5 messaging phone provides direct access to over 90 percent of the world's corporate email through Mail for Exchange and IBM Lotus Notes Traveler, and at 180 Euros, it's affordable for just about every businessperson.



Don't expect to see this ship to America, though. With the current subsidy structure, Nokia would have to pay you to own one of these with a 2-year U.S. operator contract.
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Isn't that the way it should! They should be giving us our phones, not charging full price then raking us through the coals on the monthly service charge!

Most of our cell bill goes to taxes for people who don't have phones!

It would be nicer if they lowered our monthly bills and let these countries do their own development, and production. It should be enough that we give them the ideas and the technology. If they cant figure it out then do they deserve cellphones? Most countries couldn't figure out how to build a rifle, yet when given one they know how to use it. Now lets give them a way to communicate and coordinate the two! Although this is a more peaceful solution:) It seems that Americas/Europe goes through enough phones each year that they could be trickled down for free and at greater savings to the environment.

I guess no-one remembers that old saying, "If you give a man a Fish....."

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If people wanted to lower their bills, they can do so on their own accord. No one is making them buy the expensive plans so that they can text every little unimportant even that happens in their life.  Does everyone really need Internet access to be on social networking sites all day? No. Do people need to switch cell phones every year to have the lastest and greatest? No.

 

I also don't see anything wrong with giving developing countries devices. It is up to the company if they want to do something like that.

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That is just the thing. You have to keep the people believing that the bills are justified.
Then never let them know where the actual money is going. 
You can always get away with something as long as the other side doesn't know about it!
 
Between the taxes and fees that the corporation has to pay, that they then pass on those costs to you. And the taxes and fees that they put on after your bill. Within any plan, you are paying 40-60% of your bill to entitlement programs that have nothing to do with the company you are trying to support.
 
When people are so used to paying at minimum 40 dollars, why would anyone allow that to change once the technology is complete and the company is profitable. You could be paying as little as 15dollars for basic service, yet if they dropped it then someone else will figure a way to raise it again, because that just wouldn't be right for you not to pay your fair share.
 
People on welfare get free phones because of the fees and taxes that are included in your bill, yet if they get a job then they lose their phone and benefits. So instead of paying $20 you end up paying $60 for basic. That is what I meant by that last line.

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Part of being a consumer is not just buying a product; it is also buying from a company you support because of what they do and believe in. If something like this is a concern for you, then don't support that company. The money starts off in your pockets and it is you who chooses where to spend it.

 

I don't know... Do that Go phone or something. Or stick to land line.

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So basically you are saying you like supporting China, India, Korea...is that why companies like Samsung and Kia and LG have been doing good? I never support companies that have production in foreign markets. That basically force our money to go only one way.
 
I have never minded when a company develops themselves in their own country and makes good, then sells into other markets. That is the way it should be done.
 
As far as the fees and taxes issue, you don't have a choice. whether it is a land line or cell, the fees are there. Mostly it is not the fault of the companies, it is way is imposed onto them that they then have to pass on to the consumer.

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Let's say I am indifferent. I'm not going to complain where the money is flowing to.  Production in foreign markets is inevitable. It is called globalization. Take a good look at all the tech and products you love. You are most likely supporting foreign production. Since you like throwing out that Chinese proverb/quote (Taoism or Confucianism? idk), I'll throw one out as well. The business of business is business.

 

Yes, the fees are still there, but at least you can lower it by going with a different plan or cutting back your usage.

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I don't know if it is a good thing that you know Chinese proverbs, Me either for that matter...
 
Globalization a the heart of the concept is good.  Yet that has been the problem, we have had to many people who have been indifferent for to long. Never worrying where the money comes from.
 
Yet, that is only when a corporation expands to another market built around the success of the local one. Which means they start production over there for the market there, while keeping the one here intact. When they outsource production and everyone looses there jobs here, then who is left to be able to buy the products produced in other countries? It is exactly what we are seeing with our economy now.
 
Lets say an entire towns economy is based around an auto plant. They are all able to buy a car and a house and raise a family. Then when they send that production over seas and the cars come back at a cheaper price. Then a few people around town will be able to buy a cheap car, yet everyone else starts to eat through their savings because of it. Then when they loose their house and cant afford to shop at the stores anymore, then the stores and other service industries start to go out of business. Then the town is no more!
 
On the other hand if they kept production there, for the market of their own country. Then they made a successful product. They would be able to start a production facility in other countries for those markets supported by their own production. This is why companies like Daimler-Benz is doing so well and buying everyone out, and companies like GM are needing bailouts. Hence.... Detroit!
 
If you like quotes, try this one....
 
A little neglect may breed mischief: for want of a nail the shoe was lost; for want of
a shoe the horse was lost; and for want of a horse the rider was lost.

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Just think of globalization as making everyone in the world play on an equal playing field.

The World is Flat - Somewhat interesting thing that I watched in lecture. A bit long...

 

I'm not familiar with Daimler-Benz, but not everyone can follow their business strategy. Something that works for them does not work for everyone (or even a few companies that are in the same market).

 

So what happens when a company comes into America and sells cheaper stuff and at relatively similar quality? It will be hard for many companies to react fast and compete. The good companies can, like your example. But what about the rest? Well, they could decide to compete on price and cut back on labor and maybe even send their production overseas. This pretty much starts a snowball effect and a bunch of people follow suit. It works so why not?

 

Not only that, but on the business side, companies benefit from specialization and economies of scale. Why set up my own factory here in the US, when there is one that is already established overseas. They have been in the business for a long time and has good supplier connections. Not to mention cheap labor. I can get a competitive edge in price doing it this way rather than investing tons of money for start-up costs (land, building, machinery, etc.).

 

Specialization is all over the place. That is why a lot of people outsource. We outsource too! At least I do. I don't grow my own food and tend livestock. I give that job to someone else. A lot of people do this. And because of the growing population and the growing demand, it can't can't all be done in the US.

 

By the way, what is wrong with knowing a Chinese proverb? You make it sound like it is negative.

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That last quote was NOT a Chinese proverb.
Also remember who made the first quote in the first place. You must learn everything or else you know nothing
 
IF you don't know of a company like Daimler then how can you have any views on this issue.

Those who don't know History are doomed to repeat it! If you think you are learning, then you are not. Just like the the age old question, how do you know if you are crazy,...If you still ask yourself that then you are not.

Just like that lecture, you are only taught one side and one form of History. He leaves so much out about the reality of everything that happened. What about the companies that were destroyed in the nineties thanks to the dot-com bubble. Which then turned its troubles onto the sub-prime markets and flowed into every other aspect of American life. He is a very good BS artist and it is really good that he makes a living off of it. That is why you see him catching himself from using those normal buzzwords from his normal stage performance, because he is in front of MIT. Plus he is from the NY Times. which is completely biased! They only like you if you support them and can get money from you. Back in the 1800's they used to call these people "Snake oil Salesmen"

People like him and the Rich dad poor dad guys are basically pyramid schemers. While companies like Goldman Sachs, and Madoff are Ponzi schemers. They all end up taking other peoples money to make it rich. Global individual socialism is still socialism, there still has to be someone in power. It is always very nice when the money is flowing towards you, when you never know where it is coming from. Yet when it stops and effects you the same way, then it doesn't feel to good. So what happens when your job gets outsourced, then you and all your friends get fired so slaves in China can get forced to do the work for free while their government makes money. Which they then turn around and lend to the US at very high interest rates, when you don't have jobs to pay them back? 
 
So if you think about it. Hypothetically, if you lived on an island and you only had one lake that you got all the family water(money) from. Then you started shipping it to a different land, just so they can make your pots and pans for cooking, and your glasses for water. if none of it was coming back to you, then soon you would run out of water. Then your family one by one will have no water either! Then the pans and glasses are useless.
 
So ask yourself how things like WWII was allowed to happen. People were lead to believe! They were lead to behave! They were lead to subjugation!
 
We all want to work together with everyone else. But other countries should not have our water shipped to them if we get none in return. Only when we have a good working system, should we be teaching them how to do the same for themselves!

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