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NVIDIA Rumored To Launch Fermi GPU This Week, Change Graphics Forever

NVIDIA Rumored To Launch Fermi GPU This Week, Change Graphics Forever

NVIDIA's Fermi has been revealed, but having a new platform revealed and having a new platform available for purchase are two very, very different things. The graphics world has been waiting on pins and needles for NVIDIA to make good on their promises from September, and while we can't be absolutely certain that new Fermi-based GeForce cards are on the horizon, the Wall Street Journal usually doesn't play around when it comes to details like this.

According to a new report, NVIDIA will launch a new graphics technology as early as tomorrow, and it will supposedly "more than double the performance of its current products." The chips will also "work smoothly with 3-D games and support the latest video-processing software," with Drew Henry (general manager of Nvidia's graphics-chip operations) saying that "our new generation compared to the generation it replaces is probably one of the biggest architectural leaps we've been through in some time."



The new GPU will be NVIDIA's first based on Fermi (again, based on the report), which will have "512 cores, or individual calculating engines, and three billion transistors, doubling the amounts in its previous chips." The device will also be used to "target additional markets outside of its traditional graphics stronghold, part of the company's larger push to use its graphics expertise to tackle other computing problems." We still think that a Fermi GPU would be a solid choice for gaming, but it sounds as if it may be better for applications that focus more on computations and less on graphical optimization. We suspect we'll know soon enough if these really are close to launch, and we get the idea that they won't be cheap. Nothing "first" ever is, right?
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ATI...ATI..ATI...!

Exactly why have we been waiting for this? Nvidia has fallen so far behind in the workstation market, when it comes to price and performance. I am sure the same is said in the gaming GPU market ?

Strange thing is that most games really have a hard time utilizing all this power being put out today. I would say that most games would fly with 500 cores. Even when being output to a projector with 1080p. The real question is why is Nvidia falling so far behind. DO they not have enough technical spies who can crack all the secrets of ATI, or they having a hard time reverse engineering? It snot like these things are Anti-gravity engines.

Now I know there are Die Hard Nvidia fans out there and I say that is great. Personally I wish we had around 20 different chip manufacturers out there to chose from. Maybe then as they are releasing these things in new iterations every other week, at least they will be only around 20 dollars or so :)

The New Radeons have 1600 core processors. So maybe Nvidia is giving just(minimum) what you want, and telling you.. it is just what you want!

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Umm... ok?!

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Actually the new Radeons have 320 stream cores. There are 1,600 processing elements, 5 per core. Think of it as 320 processors with 5 hardware threads each.

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One thing is certain as the masses are being held back is Fermi better "bring it"!!!!! If the card does end up faster than the 5870 this will all blow over and things will go back to business as usual but if performance does not live up to the hype, Nvidia will most likely face tough scrutiny. Time will tell but I will say this I have never been more anxious for a launch date to occur as alot is riding on Fermi and what an exciting time to be a PC gamer! This card will tell alot about where Nvidia is headed with respect to gamers as AMD has made it clear they are targeting gamers plus they have set bar quite high, stay tuned.

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Here's my prediction for tomorrow (just guessing on what will happen - no facts to back this up ;) ):

NVidia releases GTX 480, which will have a good 20% lead on the 5870 (and faster than the 5970 when paired in SLI, also by around 20%). I think the big thing NVidia will show off is something using heavy GPU calculations - maybe a demo showing real time ray tracing (although not yet at playable framerates), or something involving a ton of physics calculations. Prices will be high - high enough that ATi won't have to drop prices much on their high end stuff, and prices through the rest of their line will remain the same.

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^QFT

Mostly in line with what I was thinking give or take some percentage.

The 5850 for 299.99 on Newegg is a nice deal though and I may upgrade to it soon. We'll see.

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I still can't quite justify the $299, but I think I might spring for a 5770 (currently around $160, after discounts).

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One other thing I forgot to mention: I think we'll see the NVidia cards mature a bit better than ATi - i.e.: increased performance over time through more mature drivers, as well as a broader suite of software accelerated using NVidia's different architecture. I think they'll be fine, but I do think that getting this to market as late as it has been has cost them a bit. I just hope that NVidia keeps up with the slick development tools (NVPerfHud comes to mind). That reason alone makes it almost worth getting an NVidia card.

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From what I've read it doesn't seem likely that Fermi will be available in enough quantities to abate the appetite for Ati's high end cards. A limited amount will be released in this first round and then it might be several months before production ramps up. If this is the case it seems to me that Nvidia would do well to price their Fermi's on the low end in order to capture market share and win back some of its former fans.

If the performance difference between the Fermi's and the 5870 and 5970 is not that dramatic, I would be unwilling to wait several months for the new Fermis. However, if I knew they were underpricing Ati I might be willing to stick it out. I really hope this is the route they'll take because let's face it, $500+ for a video card is absurd.

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Zestia, your information is old and not correct. Nvidia will have twice the number of ATI 58xx cards that ATI had at their initial launch. As for price, Nvidia will keep the GTX480 under $500 to force ATI to loose money to compete.

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2010/3/22/nvidia-geforce-gtx-400-series-available-in-higher-volume-than-radeon-hd-5800.aspx

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Drago - thanks for the update and I hope the article author is right. He seems confident about his sources.  And I hope you're doubly right on the card pricing. That would be something to cheer about!

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I also heard that nVidia was making vendors buy at least 80 of its older chips for every 20 of the newer Fermis they order as well; what do you guys think of that? Sounds dumb IMO: most people on the market today already have either an HD5xxx series or a GTX2xx series; if they have something older, it's more cost-efficient to wait and upgrade to a GTX4xx series than the 2xx series anyway, and even more cost-effective to upgrade to an HD5xxx series. The only reasoning I can see behind this idea is that they're trying to clear out their own warehouses, but if they expect to get any more sales, it won't work.

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I've been looking forward to Fermi's launch and I hope it will drive prices down on both existing nVidia and Ati cards...especially since my 8800GTX just died last week. I'm waiting for the launch before I pick up a new card. Any idea on what power requirements this thing will need?

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i want to replace my 2 275's with one of them

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Regardless of Nvidia's promises to the masses, I still remain skeptical until I have tangible evidence to go by. I won't invest in a card until I have found viable reasons to do so. 

Right now ATI has the lead with their powerful and affordable cards. It's always been sort of a rat race between the two, and right now Nvidia is teetering a little bit too much. 

There is a part of me that wants to be blown away by this newly released technology, but based on my past experiences I won't hold my breath. 

Still though, I'm incredibly anxious to see some results from just one of their GTX models, coupled with at least 4 gigs of RAM and an i7 processor, just so I can get a feel for what I'm missing. 

I wonder how long it will take Hot Hardware to get their hands on this card and test its limits. I wager on a day haha. 

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Nether can you link us to that information? That would be a really bad business plan ans its kinda hinting at they can't get their stock sold...

This card better be up to the hype its getting over the past months of waiting...

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Well we will see I am pretty sure we have heard several times this would be released on said day with nothing on that day happening. Even if they do put it out at a $500 rate and it can not beat a 5970 I don't see much point, as I can buy a 5970 (dual GPU and RAM, not to mention DDR5 ram at a smaller build point (so it runs cooler)).

Nvidia needs to bring it because if it has right around twice the stream cores and processing elements. The 5970 also has double stream cores and elements on two GPU's in 1 card that is more efficient in several ways than I've ever seen Nvidia put out. You would also have to buy two $500 cards to beat it which would be a $1000 expenditure and it would still operate about the same as a 5970 for almost half off the end price.

Of course I don't have any more info than anyone else except those who work at Nvidia. So I am anxious to see this especially if it trashes a 58 or 5970. That will spur ATI to work harder on there next release, and then of course back to Nvidia for the next round.

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I really hope it lives up to the hype. I held up from buying a DX11 card to see which one would be worth buying.

If NVIDIA doesn't provide a viable lead or it falters in the performance then it's ATI for me.

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I think it is going to be ATI for me no matter what this does. I'm right on the edge of getting a third monitor.

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I think Nvidia will still get sales from their older products. A lot of people are still buying them. Some just don't care about DX11 and want to just get a 2nd card for cheap to run SLI.

 

From the video that Nvidia released about their card, it seems like they stressed that their card was really designed for DX11 and features like tessellation. That sounds great and it looks good in controlled environments. But once regular benchmarks come out, I think the performance increase will be marginal at best because there aren't too many DX11 games out there. And the ones that are out there aren't even making anywhere near full use of DX11. Battlefield Bad Company 2 mainly used it for shadows. I believe that once a game really starts to utilize DX11 (I hope we don't have to wait for Crysis 2), we can see real differences between these new cards and the ATI 5000 series. Just my thoughts based on the handpicked benchmarks and demos that Nvidia was showing. At least what I saw, I didn't notice any benchmarks with game titles like Crysis, which a lot of people like to use in their reviews.

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I've was gonna wait till fermi released @the end of last year..... Since there delay I purchased a 5870. At first I didn't think 3 monitor setup was something I would get excited about till I tried it. I don't think I could go back to a single monitor setup now. It gives me a big advantage against people in many many games.... So I think I'll pass this time around on fermi..... Sorry Nvidia

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It will be interesting to see how this performs compared to ATI's line. As for an additional 3rd competitor, I can't wait to see if Intel holds up with its Larrabee line. Having 3 hardcore GPU competitors certainly spices things up a bit especially if one already holds the cards to the CPU market.

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So where is the Fermi as it is Friday better known as the end of the week business wise? I wonder if it will just be the same as every other rumored release of this, as I expected from the posting of this, and or as usual!

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