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Google Stops Filtering Chinese Results; Redirects Users To New Domain

Google Stops Filtering Chinese Results; Redirects Users To New Domain

As promised, Google stopped filtering Chinese search results on Monday; users attempting to visit Google.cn are now redirected to Google.hk. That's the company's Hong Kong domain, which is not censored to comply with China's demands. The next move in the ongoing saga is China's; Google's decision to redirect mainland Chinese users to a different search portal will not guarantee those users' access if China decides to shut Google down locally or blocks access to the site itself.

This entire standoff began 2.5 months ago when Google announced it would no longer continue to censor results in China. The move was sparked by the Chinese government's attempts to hack into the Gmail accounts of certain human rights activists; Google eventually turned up evidence that the hackers in question had targeted at least 34 additional companies. During the last few months, Google stated that it wanted to "run an unfiltered search engine within the law." Google never formally accused the government of actually sponsoring the hacking attempts, a move that may have been calculated to allow the Chinese government to save face.


Google competitors and knock-offs have not been slow to capitalize on the company's condundrum. Goojje up there refuses to change its logo, claiming anyone in China knows the difference between it and Google.

In a blog post entitled "A new approach to China: an update," Google's senior vice president of corporate development and CLO David Drummond wrote:
these attacks and the surveillance they uncovered—combined with attempts over the last year to further limit free speech on the web in China including the persistent blocking of websites such as Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google Docs and Blogger—had led us to conclude that we could no longer continue censoring our results on Google.cn. Figuring out how to make good on our promise to stop censoring search on Google.cn has been hard. We want as many people in the world as possible to have access to our services, including users in mainland China, yet the Chinese government has been crystal clear throughout our discussions that self-censorship is a non-negotiable legal requirement. We believe this new approach of providing uncensored search in simplified Chinese from Google.com.hk is a sensible solution to the challenges we've faced—it's entirely legal and will meaningfully increase access to information for people in China.
The Chinese government has yet to respond. For years, economists, pundits, and foreign policy experts have all collectively claimed that increased economic ties to China and even the limited adoption of a free market economy would drive advances in human rights and fuel the creation of democratic civil institutions. To date, this has not significantly occurred. While many Chinese do employ techniques to circumvent the Great Firewall, Internet users as a whole have not risen up demanding that the government cease its censorship.

The evolving situation in China has cast doubt on the theory that capitalism and democracy are as tightly linked as some have thought. Based on the relative balance of power between the government and the search giant, we're guessing that the Chinese probably will pull the plug, but not before taking a little time to gauge world response and at least make a show of evaluating the acceptableness of Google.hk's unfiltered search results. International opinion has not proven to have nearly the impact on the country's domestic and foreign policies as was once hoped, but China has a vested interest in painting itself as the aggrieved party resorting to shutdown as a last resort.
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thats a nice big slap in the face to the Chinese Gov. There is no love loss between them and Hong Kong and them either...lol

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How funny my teacher was giving us a lesson on Communism in china today and she bought up Google closing in china to support her statement of censorship -.-

The Chinese Gov is just restarted! :(

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I know. It a big mystery as to why China security blankets their people and to why they restrict free speech. Is there some sort of conspiracy going on around here?

Seriously, I don't know if Google is actually going to do anything by doing this, but I sure hope that it makes an impact.

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I expect chinese employees to be under quite a bit of fire.

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"Inspector?" that is interesting...a lesson in communism?

I still wonder how much of that they are teaching in schools nowadays, and exactly what they are teaching you. Do they teach you about the McArthy era, and do they teach it like it was a bad thing? Do they teach that the civil war was about freedom and not mainly about slavery? Or the indoctrination of the Hitler youth. Because any form of to much government is bad, M'kay :)

This is just a friendly question, not to be any form of judmentality involved. It has just been over 20Yrs since I was in school, so I am rather curious:)

The Chinese government loves their power and will do everything they can to hold onto it. With the advent of things like Wikipedia there is alot more hope for everyone to research and learn on their own, and learn the truth. That is exactly what they are afraid of.

It is kinda odd that when the people of China were free they did things like build the great wall. And now they are trying to top that by building the Great Firewall of China!

I hope they do not find a way to stifle the people of China. Because everyone deserves the freedom to do a search for 2girls1cup :o OK, maybe not that, but the internet should be open to all.

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LOL Animatortom :) they teach you alot of stuff i don't really care about :P lol. whats the McArthy era? and i know civil war is about freedom.... Most civil wars are not over slavery so...?

I LOLed for that last part there...

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Inspector:
whats the McArthy era?

The McCarthy Era was a chapter in US history that shamed our system and ideas of democracy. It should never be forgotten or repeated. Go to school long enough and you'll be taught about it.

However,......I see nothing wrong with learning about Communism in China today. You better know all you can about that society because you'll be dealing with them on the world stage for a long, excruciating time. Knowledge IS power,.......

animatortom:   China isn't free and has never been free. It is a closed society and the Great wall was built by several Dynastic Societies over a long period of time to protect it's Northern borders from attack. In any Dynastic Society there is a definite pecking order and woe to the sucker on the bottom of the pile. Freedom was something that they could only dream of, and never attain.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Great_wall_of_china-mutianyu_4.JPG/800px-Great_wall_of_china-mutianyu_4.JPG

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I like how the Chinese government doesn't extend their system of internet censorship to Hong Kong; just mainland China. In fact, (according to wikipedia) China blocks many Hong Kong sites from mainland China.

I haven't really been following this. Can anyone tell me why the Chinese government isn't treating Hong Kong like mainland China?

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For many years Hong Kong was ruled by the British Empire. They had to return control of Hong Kong to the Chinese Government on July 1st. 1997.

The existing quasi-government of Hong Kong is essentially the same one that was in place for years before the transfer of power, less the British influence. They are capitalists and a major manufacturing hub for the entire world. Odds are that the computer components in the computer you are using were made there. They make a hell of a lot of money there and it's widely believed that absolute Communist rules and practices there would screw that up completely. The communists give them freedoms that other Chinese citizens don't have because of agreements with Briton and the fact that they tax them. It results in allot of money and they don't want the income stream screwed up.

Also, America and other western powers would like to see them as a separate nation, as would the people of Hong Kong. China vehemently opposes this and swears that they will go to war to prevent it. That's why America has just agreed to sell Hong Kong advanced weaponry, just to piss off China.

It amounts to an entire nation living on the ragged edge of danger.

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Thanks for the information realneil. It was very informative. Would you happen to have a good news article about selling Hong Kong advanced weaponry? That would be an interesting read.

 

I do see Hong Kong as a financial center. Like New York City is for the United States. It does make sense to keep things as they are if they are working really well (making lots of money). And since China is taxing it, they would be messing around with a source of income inflow.

 

Good thing that I know a little bit about this. I don't get this stuff from school and I never really sought after world news. But I guess knowing a bit is better than being completely unaware of it.

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Read a little more about it here.

China's latest position is,....."How would we like it if they sold advanced weapons systems to Cuba?"

And in that, they have a point to ponder, don't they?

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You are very right Realneil! Rock ON!

I left the "Free" part in there just to see if anyone was paying attention, and to see others points of view. I know China has never really been free. When a country is so massive on that scale, they kinda have to go with the flow. And like Adolf pointed out "It is a good thing for political leaders that the people are dumb" Like you said China has always been a nation living on the ragged edge of danger.

"How would we like it if they sold advanced weapons systems to Cuba?"

Knowledge is power...So lets not forget about October 1962 and "Black Saturday"!

Or in today's world we now have to worry about places like Venezuela and even Mexico.

Although, if you notice in that Wiki article. They kinda leave out the whole era of Washington during 1940-1946. Not talking about the Communists within our own government, since we were allies with Russia and the C word was not a bad thing back then, it was just a different way of thinking, And something Germany didn't like. The McCarthy era began with legitimate problems Like the Rosenberg's, FDR's views and the people around him. That ended up being perverted into roughly the Salem witch hunts. The sad part is, that is what history focuses on.

Much like Germany and Japan, We must remember that History is written by the Victors. That is why Das Boot is one of my favorite movies, because it shows how in the same situation men would do the same patriotic things no matter what country. Without sharing the same ideals as the people in power.

I remember reading somewhere "If you give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish he will eat for a lifetime" To me places like China and Russia only like to only hand out a fish, that way they can take them away when they want to. And leaders get worried if people start to learn how to fish, then they find out how really useless they are. Because all they are good at are forcing people to do as they say and rallying a crowd by telling them what they want to hear without actually meaning it.

That is why China is worried about open searches on Google. Can you imagine if their people were able to learn for themselves, think for themselves, and understand what people like Mao actually did. And what it is like not having to goosestep to others orders. China is no different from the rest of the world, in the sense that they are just people like us. Even today something that starts out with good intentions can be perverted into a country like China, and when they are writing the history. It can be erased.

Think outside the box that the box is in. We must learn all we can about the past or we are destined to repeat it!

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